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Hostage users vs. Hostage killers, what a wonderful scenario the Middle East has gotten itself into this time.
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Israel has the iron dome, it's not for lack of trying.
A man shoots at his wife and misses. Should that man go to jail?
If a man shoots at his wife and misses, they should drop a 1000 pound bomb on his house with him and his wife and kids inside, his neighbors' houses blown up as well, his office building hit with napalm, his cousins detained for questioning, and his accountant shot. Agreed?
No, just him. Like how Israel sabotaged military equipment. And unlike how Hamas and Hezbollah target civilians.
Now that we've established that, do you have any comment on the number of children killed in Gaza? The reported number is somewhere around 17,000, but it's hard to know for certain because all of the hospitals have been bombed. We do know that more than 2,000 children under age 2 are dead. Any comment on the number of journalists killed (100+)? Any comment on the number of aid workers killed, especially when in nearly every case they were directly coordinating with the IDF? Any comment on the use of white phosphorus in densely packed urban areas? And comment on dropping JDAMs in a refugee camp to eliminate a single hamas leader? And then dropping another JDAM on the same refugee camp during rescue efforts?
Those numbers came from Gaza officials, otherwise known as Hamas. Who knows how many are actually dead, who killed them, and what happened? Hell, we already saw direct proof that Hamas will kill their own civilians when they fired a rocket at their own hospital.
There's an extreme amount of propaganda surrounding the war, and there's no good figures on it.
Those deaths are listed BY NAME AND ID NUMBER. If you want to contest them, you'll need evidence.
And if you want to play that game, the IDF shot 3 Israeli hostages.
Want to comment on all the other atrocities, or is that all propaganda too?
Why on earth would the IDF kill Israeli hostages? Does that make sense to you?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alon_Shamriz,_Yotam_Haim,_and_Samer_Talalka
Actually yes. It makes sense if you consider their purpose in Gaza is genocide. They thought they were innocent Palestinians, not innocent Israelis.
Iron Dome has intercepted some 5000 rockets in the past decade. With each of those 5000 rockets assumed to be a civilian casualty (which, considering the casualty rates of Hamas rocket attacks per-rocket, you will agree is VERY generous, I'm sure), would you like to give us a ballpark estimate for the civilian deaths caused by Israel and Hamas?
A rocket can kill way more than one person.
Are you saying that if a man shoots at his wife and misses, he should get off scot free?
Can. On average a rocket made by Hamas kills one person per 100 rockets fired. They're not exactly cutting-edge weapons.
No, I'm saying of the man who shot one person, and the man who shot ten people in the same time frame, one is much more urgent to address. Furthermore, this whole thing came up because you claimed that Israel bombing more civilians than Hamas was 'misinformation'.
tl;dr; 3000 Black Rockets of Hamas have not caused the obliteration of 2% of the Israeli population yet.