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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Back in the days of the wild frontier things were chaotic, anarchic, violent, and unconstrained.

Then came the churches, then came the schools
Then came the lawyers, then came the rules
Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads
And the dirty old track was the Telegraph Road

And now we're all fenced in, regulated, allowed to wander only in approved lanes... oh, wait, sorry, we're talking about the internet, not real life!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I really hate to argue in favor of all those scary things, but with those things in the old west came education and improvements to quality of life; better protections for the vulnerable and cures and prevention of disease.

Same could be said of the internet if we follow the analogy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

improvements to quality of life;

Native Americans: "Beg your pardon?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think the analogy holds. Communities destroyed in favor of the powerful’s whims

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Kind of my point. We gained ecommerce, streaming services, platforms such as this one, online gaming, mapping services, and others - at the cost of the freedoms for which people are nostalgic. And now we have ads, personalization, tracking, and inevitable enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This pretty much. It got 'civilized'

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

No. It's those who are gaslighting us to think this way.

Same as the early Soviet years of gaslighting how every revolution has the initial violent period and you have to be strict with the enemies of it. Or similar Soviet gaslighting of the 50s, where everything is to blame - the restoration after the war, the capitalist world, and what not, - for all problems. Or the 60s, where they were expected to wait 20 years more to the utter victory and passenger starships between Earth and Mars. Or the 70s, where the Soviet propaganda pretended that USSR is just a normal country, not a totalitarian one. Or the 80s, where nobody believed anything except democracy which was one thing present in speeches and not in reality, so they believed that USSR only has to become really democratic to suddenly turn into USA, cheap edition.

It (the Web) is corrupt, oligopolized and unsanitary, because nation-states saw its potential for propaganda and control, crooks saw its potential for scams big enough to bend laws for them, and stupid people saw its potential to confirm their stupid opinions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Nah, people got changed too. The younger generation is not interested in the technology that much otherwise then usage of it. Also even the older generation lost its interests because of getting older and family

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago