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GNOME Moves On: What the End of the X11 Session Means (linuxiac.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For someone who has not used Gnome in 14+ years you sure seem to know a lot about it…

I ditched GNOME in 3.0 times. And I still gave it a second try, a third, even a fourth. And my system has GNOME (and KDE, and Xfce...) applications, so certain patterns are visible even in everyday usage. And I fuck around with virtual machines to find out about random stuff, including DEs that I ditched (like GNOME and KDE) or I never used directly in my machine (like Elementary).

So don't assume "ditched it = ignorant about it".

X11 has effectively already been deprecated for years, seeing little to no development on it.

O rly. And the point still stands: GNOME has a tendency to drop support to older software before the newer one is ready.

Unless you want to claim Wayland reached parity with X11, and there's totally no reason people might want to stick with X11 instead.

And still, there are SEVERAL Long Term Support distros out there that will support X11 for the coming years.

This does not address what I said.

Please stop pretending that stuff will start breaking. It will not.

That is not what I said.

*Yawn* Given that

I have little to no patience towards people who distort what others say and vomit assumptions; and
Others might come up with something actually meaningful to contradict what I said,

It's safe to disregard you as meaningless noise, so I ain't wasting my time further with you.

[inb4 people discussing the semantics of "ditch"]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well from the bottom of the article apparently someone is looking to carry on with X11 and has started Xlibre (with what looks like TONS of new drama).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the guy in question is, simply put, a nutjob.

I don't even disagree with the idea of ditching X11. My criticism is timing; statistics like this show 90% X usage, either instead or alongside Wayland; it's clear most users still use X11, in one form or another. It's like making a street cars only when most people still use horse chariots.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A KDE developer made a blog post on the 21st talking about X11 stats on KDE and the numbers show the majority are already on Wayland.

At this point in time, our telemetry says that a majority of Plasma users are already using the Wayland session. Currently 73% of Plasma 6 users who have turned on telemetry are using the Wayland session, and a little over 60% of all telemetry-activating users (including Plasma 5 users) are on Wayland.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The difference between both links is huge - one shows 7%, another 73%. Since I have no idea which is more reliable, nor I think this difference is due to time (the FF link is from 2022), let's go with your link instead.

73% Wayland means 27% X11. It's still a lot; not a big problem in KDE's case, since its developers are rather emphatic on still maintaining the X11 session. Can't say the same about GNOME.