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Vegans are worse people and more harmful than "carnists' (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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They don't give a fuck about minimizing suffering, they gladly eat food grown by slaves, or overconsume things some communities rely on, or replace things made of leather with things made of plastic that'll break down into microplastics. They force their shit into pets like cats who can't thrive on a vegan diet. And that's assuming they don't just call you a nazi for even having a pet, or steal your pet from you so they can kill it. And ofc they're just the most holier than thou pieces of shit anywhere, who think everyone who isn't vegan is literally as bad as a fascist.

Yall are weird. Really weird. And you don't have to be this harmful. Quit getting even more plastic shit, stop abusing pets, quit taking food from indigenous people who need it. You can minimize animal products without replacing them with even worse things, and failing to do so makes you just as much of an irredeemable fascist as the rest of us. Human suffering is not preferable to animal suffering. If you disagree, you are literally a sociopath

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

there are a number of vegans that think no one should own cats, and there are equally a number of vegans that think that cats should be fed a vegan diet with essential amino acid supplements rather than letting an obligate carnivore eat meat.

And there are WAY WAY WAY more vegans that work at animal shelters specifically trying to put animals in to homes.

The overwhelming majority of vegans do not do this. Like, I don't know how to convince you of this other than saying in that of being vegan for 8+ years, going to vegan specific fairs/conventions, reading vegan literature, particating in vegan discords and moderating a vegan community that I have never once interacted with a a person who actually did this.

IN THE VERY LINK YOU PROVIDE, vegans calling this behavior out and saying if they can't feed a cat meat, not to own one. This accusation simply isn't based in reality.

It's certainly a sentiment among vegans that gets amplified in any space where they tend to congregate.

Cannibalism is a sentiment shared among many meat eaters, that behavior tends to get amplified in those spaces, just look at Jeffrey Dahmer and Armin Meiwes. They are all like that.

No. It's a vanishingly small minority that you are pretending is a monolith because it's an easy strawman. Honestly you sound like the deluded pro-life folk who protest outside planned parenthood because they read online that post-birth 3rd trimester abortions happen all the time. I can't stop you from believing in nonsense, but it frankly makes you sound ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The overwhelming majority of vegans do not do this.

And yet, the ones that do tend to be very loud in online spaces.

Yes, vegans are calling it out in the link I gave. And there are also vegans in that thread--and in this one--insisting that it's perfectly fine.

It’s a vanishingly small minority

Whether or not it's small, they're loud. The fact that we're even having this discussion is because mods in a vegan community had decided that it's fine to say that obligate carnivores could be vegan, and--if I have my timeline correct--deleted commends from an admin saying otherwise.