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Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College
(www.pewresearch.org)
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I get it, but then only like 4 counties in the whole country decide an election.
Counties dont vote. Individuals vote. Even if you're in LA youre still one person that gets one vote regardless of how those around you vote.
...if you batched the popular vote into counties and made each county winner-take-all.
Which is not what anyone is suggesting.
Which 4 counties contain even close to a majority of the population between them?
As opposed to now where only like 4 empty plots of dirt decide elections...?
Oh no! The majority of the people get to decide an election in a democracy! The horror!
Not only that, but if the election is close, the entire country gets re-counted.
The quickest way to fix the electoral college is not to fix it at all, but to increase the size of Congress. Congress used to increase in size every year, until the 1920s, when they couldn't decide on how many seats to add. In 1920, there were about 250k people in an average district. Now there are over 750k, which is larger than some of the smallest states.
Congress sets its own size, and this fix can be done without any amendment.
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/data-download/nations-population-growing-congress-standing-still-rcna103142
This doesn't really fix anything other than the small state counting bias. You still have states that are entirely ignored because they're reliably >50% red/blue and you still have a small number of close states that are the only ones who matter. There's still a high likelihood that you'll have presidents elected who lost the popular vote merely because of inefficient arrangements of voters.
that doesn't solve the issue with the senate; where every state regardless of size has two.
That's the entire purpose of the Senate. It is functioning as designed and that is not an issue.
Congress is supposed to be two halves, one where every State is on equal footing (Senate), and one half where a larger population gets a larger voice (House).
Just because it’s designed that way doesn’t make it a non-issue. It was designed to be shitty and I’d really like a not-shitty government, thank you.
No, that won't be solved without a constitutional amendment, though. Increasing the size of Congress can help mitigate the issue, and just takes an act of Congress .
You just described the system we have now.
Not true, heres the county map from 2016. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2016_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg
https://s3files.core77.com/blog/images/960537_81_90771_DrdO3qFgW.gif
Land can't vote, people can. Your argument sucks.
So only people that live in large dense cities voice's count. Got it.
If presidents were elected via popular vote, that would be the literal definition of "we the people". One person, one vote.
My vote has no practical effect since I'm not in a swing state.
Get rid of the EC and my vote suddenly matters just as much as a vote from PA.