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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Thats really white washing the Nazis. I get you hate America, but the Nazis were an evil in their own league

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Didn’t Hitler idolize the American genocide of native Americans? I don’t think the Nazis ever got to dropping a nuclear bomb on civilians either. I mean 2 nuclear bombs. Sorry, all the cruelty and murder gets you confused sometimes.

Nazis: 17,000,000

European Colonists in America: 55,000,000

Americans eradicated Buffalo because of the cultural and spiritual significance to the natives.

American slavery.

The 14th amendment allowing for slavery as a punishment while we have the most prisoners per capita in the world.

We were the framework.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Criticising something doesn't mean you hate it.

The Nazis copied a lot shit directly from America. Hitler admired the US and their racial segregation policies.

Don't you think it kinda ironic the US was fighting against Nazis with segregated troops?

The amount of illegal searches, cops planting evidence, killing black people with the flimsiest of excuses?

Not to mention actual literal nazis marching in the street because "It'd be against the freedom of expression to prohibit nazis"

You're whitewashing 'Murica.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Nazis committed the Holocaust. They killed 11 million people. Did you forget that part, or do you honestly think illegal searches are on the same level?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Compared to Americas victim count?

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/

SUMMARY

Over 940,000 people have died in the post-9/11 wars due to direct war violence.

An estimated 3.6-3.8 million people have died indirectly in post-9/11 war zones, bringing the total death toll to at least 4.5-4.7 million and counting. Over 432,000 civilians have been killed as a result of the fighting.

38 million — the number of war refugees and displaced persons.

The U.S. federal price tag for the post-9/11 wars is over $8 trillion.

The U.S. government is conducting counterterror activities in 78 countries.

At least four times as many active duty personnel and war veterans of post-9/11 conflicts have died of suicide than in combat.

The wars have been accompanied by violations of human rights and civil liberties, in the U.S. and abroad.

Germany actually took responsibility for what they did. The US is still pretending it does nothing but good. Several decades after WWII, the US still had official segregation.

But you just won't be able to admit a single flaw in the US or that it's in an way comparable and/or worse than Nazi Germany was.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thats called a war. War is ugly, but its not comparable to the Holocaust

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know, when I was a kid, I used to wonder how Nazi Germany ever became a thing. How could it be that such unjust, illogical violence and hatred could ever manage to become the political norm.

After a few decades of talking to Americans like you, I now found it very obvious.

Do you think the Germans said "let's commit atrocities" or do you think they also had excuses for theirs?

"The war on terror" isn't a traditional or indeed even an actual war.

In 1924, Adolf Hitler wrote that propaganda’s

“task is not to make an objective study of the truth, in so far as it favors the enemy, and then set it before the masses with academic fairness; its task is to serve our own right, always and unflinchingly.” 

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nazi-propaganda

Remind you of anything? Like screams of "America first! AMERICA FIRST"

If you genuinely don't see the similarities in 2020 America and 1920 Germany, you're either ignorant or willfully ignorant.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know what? Im just going to start blocking nazis, starting with you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Even better than I thought.

Just like I said, you're literally unable to recognise reality for what it is.