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As a non-USAmerican I only know Michelle Obama from that list. But if you want real change and young voters, get AOC on the ticket. I bet you that'll wake people up. She's media savvy and could probably get the entire tiktok+insta viewership to campaign for her. The facebook folk probably less so, and the redditors 50/50. She would need a male vice president though. Two women in the US ain't making it this year.
But honestly, I want Trump to win. The world needs a good shake up and divorce from the USA. New alliances have to be made and the reliance on US tech and media has to stop. I know it would hurt USAmericans, but it'd be the best for the world to stop following the USA as if hypnotised.
Already happened 2016. It was awful. Hoped we'd never be here again.
Unless you've been hiding under a rock, you can see its influence spread over the globe. Germany recently voted hard right. Israel is a genocidal shithouse. India is Modi's Muslim hate factory. All strutting the Putin way: oligarchs ruling & fascist division of the people spread with propaganda (RT, Fox news, Facebook & twaXtter).
Do you seriously think that was Trump? Nah dude, that was US media that has been infecting the world since the second world war. After Europe collapsed, the US swooped into the void and filled it with media portraying themselves as the victors and saviors. It spread USAmerican tribalism far and wide.
Then social media came along and Europe still hadn't caught up nor recognised the power of media. Investments in film, TV, music, and internet were, and still are, ridiculously small compared to US investments. The internet just helped US media percolate deeper into European society. Now it's on everbody's phones and is an endless barrage.
Of course fossil fuel companies have a large role to play too. They helped mold a world focused on their product, which fucks up the environment. And tech companies play an even bigger role today, exploiting poor countries that were kneecapped by the US by destroying their democracies (or attempts at democracies) decades ago.
People want to flee and Europe comparatively easier to reach than the US, so they tried and still try to escape their situations. That of course gives right wing parties fodder to spread their hatred and blame a defenseless scapegoat.
I'm not saying the US is the root of all evil, I'm saying they play a monumental part in it. Trump is just an accelerator to a possible decoupling of Europe and other economies from the US.
We all know the DNC is controlled by corporate interests. They aren't protecting the population. All they are protecting is their investments. Had they cared about the people, they'd never had thrown their support behind a second term for Biden. He too old 4 years ago and is way too old now. If the vote is won by a democrat, and that will only happen if the DNC takes a fucking stick out of their ass and force Biden to drop out ASAP, that will just mean another 4 years where the US can keep semi-good relations with the world. The world won't have a reset button.
You're delusional if you think it would only hurt Americans. America would become EVERYONE'S problem in a big way.
I doubt they can become a problem in 4 years. Come election time (2028), there will be a civil war and it'll implode as Trump tries to hold on to power and become president for a 3rd time. He's unpredictable, but one country against the world? They lost countless war games.
I didn't say there wouldn't be problems 🤨 There will be, but we'll come out of it better than before. The rest of the world that is. The US, not so much.