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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

'American Liberal' is more extreme than any of the above

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just to clarify, you believe "American Liberal" is more extreme than Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Do we want to count the number of genocides Americans have supported since just 1900, compared to the Nazis only pulling one? 'Cause I've got the Americans responsible for the genocide of every indigenous tribe that originally held their land, the ongoing genocide of the Black community, genocide of the Mexicans that attempt to cross into the country while Biden's atomization and sexual assault camps are still open on the border, genocide of the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts, and genocide of the Palestinians-- so I'm definitely going to hedge my chips on the Americans being worse.

As it is, Hitler lifted his concepts of Lebensraum and Aryan purity from Manifest Destiny and Jim Crow Codes in the first place, so... Yeah, motherfuck America and motherfuck her vassals. Typical crackers taking offense at their crimes being listed off to them, though; why am I surprised? There's no singular people in the world with less a sense of culpability or shame than Americans, other than maybe the Brits or the French-- both of whom have been vassalized by America in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Nazis did multiple genocides by almost any definition, though obviously they could never aspire to the body count of America or Britain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I figured since the manifold genocides all happened around the same time as part of the same policy, it'd all be lumped into one; that's my b-- but you are still correct in that the body count is absolutely dwarfed by what the American Empire's gotten up to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Where do you think Hitler got the infulence to use the gas chambers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_Bath_riots

America has sucsesfully carried out multiple genocides, as recently as a decade ago.

The Nazis failed, America didnt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The article you linked is about brutal mistreatment and forced "disinfection" of people crossing a border. As horible as that is, do you truly believe that is the same scale of evil as systematic genocide?

I'm not American and that article doesn't mention liberalism, so I'd appreciate it if you highlight the connection there too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The article you linked is about brutal mistreatment and forced “disinfection” of people crossing a border. As horible as that is, do you truly believe that is the same scale of evil as systematic genocide?

I highlighted the part relevant in the reply above, to further explain America invented the gas chamber as a way to 'medicalize' executions and attempt to make them more 'humane'. Hitler was inspired by this 'scientific' approach to executions that he replicated the design while carrying out his holocaust by using higher concentrations of Zyklon B, which in low doses acts as a disinfectant, and in high doses kills.

In regards to actual genocides though, Id point to the Korean War (they wanted to drop a nuke on Korea, even in South Korea american troops slaughtered 300,000+ civillians and then installed a military dictatorship) gulf war (2 million civallians dead) and Vietnam (Free fire zones, agent orange) as examples of genocides carried out last century/recently, and then obviously the founding genocide of the Native American population.

Also I would say that given America has the highest prison population, in the history of mankind; of which are mostly political prisoners arrested on drug charges, or as a consequence of the drug war (a political war), the ongoing genocide of black americans is yet to be resolved.