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Biden’s campaign proposed that the first debate between the presumptive Democratic and Republican nominees be held in late June and the second in September before early voting begins. Trump responded to the letter in an interview with Fox News digital, calling the proposed dates “fully acceptable to me” and joked about providing his own transportation.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The terms here are how the commission should have been running debates from the beginning.

Trump will never agree to these terms as they undercut his entire debate strategy. With no crowd there, Trump can't feed off their responses. With the mic time limit he can't interrupt and interject like he wants to do. That leaves him with his rambling disconnected thoughts.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Amen to that. I DESPISE how debates have morphed into glorified episodes of American Idol.

Admittedly, this is probably self serving because Biden stumbles enough that his performance would be made into a 'bIdEn oLd!' spectacle by the blowhard and his Fox News minions, but debates should NEVER have devolved into the WWE shitshows they've been for the last decade. That format is partly to blame for Trump's rise to power, because they basically rolled out the red carpet for a bloviating showman to gobble up all the oxygen in the room.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and that will be another problem. Even with this format, most people aren't going to watch the debate. What they'll watch is clips from the debate from their favorite media outlet.

Biden isn't a great debater, so I'm sure there'll be plenty of clips of him looking like an idiot. And, well, Trump is an idiot and his supporters know and don't really care about that... So... Yeah. These debates will ultimately be pointless. The two are known entities that really don't need exploring. A format change, though, would hopefully help with the 2028 elections.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't have said it better myself. At least this puts the Commission on notice that they're shitting the bed and dramatic changes are expected.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I worry that not doing debates for this cycle would be the start of a tradition of not doing them anymore, ever. To some degree, I'm in favor of doing them even knowing they're only ceremonial.

But even as I write that out, I wonder if the whole thing needs a facelift. This kind of televised debate was made up in a world where television had the broadest media reach. It was a public service to broadcast debates, and there was a time when that might make up the majority of what a voter knew about the candidates.

Now we have the Internet and no need to shoehorn a Very Formal Debate into a prime time slot. Debates could be shorter and focused on the details of particular issues, allowing the candidates to converse more directly on topics. I would listen to a whole year of weekly podcast episodes like that leading up to an election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

You may be correct, but if we still have free and fair elections in 2028 (I have my doubts), and if we have 2 brand new candidates, the demand for a debate will be higher. I just don't think anyone wants to hear from these two men, in particular, because we've already heard everything they have to say.