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Independent civilians picked up the live signals being beamed back from the positions of the landings. These signals were both video and audio. Multiple nations have independently imaged the landing sites with footprints visible. You can even see the shadows of the flags on the moon. That would be a whole lot of design and engineering nowadays, let alone in the 60's. You can read about these and more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings
But yeah, clearly the most logical conclusion is that we designed a probe to make fake human footprints, plant a flag, drive around a buggy, take lunar rock samples, plant mirrors on the surface, and obtain all of the scientific data that we have, all in the 1960's. Then, we just kept sending these probes (which somehow do not appear in any photographs, not even tracks from one) for decades. On top of that, no one involved has spilled the beans, not even on their deathbeds.
I wonder which of these scenarios is more likely. I don't think you're a troll or an idiot, I think you're a full-fledged dumbass.
How would you verify the source though?
I for one wouldn't call someone a dumbass for thinking a conclusion that has no societal bearing, especially if it's one thing from the far reaches of their mind.
You need to be on the moon to believe it then?
It came from the far reaches of your ass, maybe, but definitely not your mind.
Not what I said, I simply asked how you'd verify. And why do you care?
How would you verify, since you're the one that doesn't believe the facts right in front of your nose?
I care because to deny something like the moon landing is to deny the blood, sweat, and tears that went into it, it's one of humanity's greatest achievements. To deny it is to deny all science and logic. You're seriously surprised that people would get pissed off at you when you basically call all of NASA liars? Not just NASA, but also basically all astronomers?
You're even more ignorant than I thought if you can't even comprehend why people would care.
I wouldn't exactly call watching a technological medium about an event, or supposed proof of it locked away where it can't act as proof, the same as having the event right in front of my nose, neither would I say to deny the moon landing is to deny science and logic since what we're speaking of is an event, not strictly a scientific phenomenon. I do not call "astronomers" liars, I simply believe the landing did not happen, and to phrase an event (one which was more for national interest than humanity's) as if it's a measure of our value and worth like that is to look way too much into it.