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Why not attack the U.S. directly? There are plenty of coastal bases in the U.S.
I feel like it would hurt a whole lot more if they were to go after something on U.S. soil...not that I exactly want that. Being bombed at home sounds terrifying.
Im just curious what the logic was behind this.
It's pretty straightforward, they have to do something, but they really don't want a war with the US despite any public comments. An attack that can be directly traced to Iran that even targeted the mainland would be a great way to ensure the US escalates.
There hasn't been a war on U.S. mainland in 150 years. If a misil hits it it could trigger easily WWIII. Last attack on U.S. was 9/11 and that started multiple wars.
Didn't Japan hit Oregon in ww2
What is the metric of success. Iran wants the US to stay out of the region. Nothing about our response to 9/11 suggests that that is how we would respond to an attack on our soil.
You are getting downvoted but i agree with you its obvious they dont really try to hurt the US.
Even the missiles they did fire, ALL of them were intercepted by US missile defence and not a single person was hurt.
Its just to show that they hit back a little symbolically.
There will be a "terrorist" attack in the near future. The something with guns during a crowded event. My money is on a 4th of July event shooting. Sadly that's the only way Iran and other poor nations have to fight back. Until Iran and poor nations get nukes they will be taken advantage of. I'm pro Iran nukes simple because them not having them is obviously not working for anyone
My first thought was a false flag attack
Have you tried using logic to answer your question?
Apparently not. since its so obvious to you, why dont you use your big brain and share with the class?
Why haven't you tried to use logic?
This seems performative. Only a handful of missiles and apparently Iranian state TV is reporting successful strikes, but I can't find anything reputable that confirms that. Sounds like all missiles were intercepted. Iran gets to show their people that they've responded without risking a true escalation.
Yeah from the footage I saw in this thread it seems like they were all intercepted by Patriot missiles and if any did hit they did minimal damage. Russia just launched hundreds of drones and missiles into Kyiv. Iran certainly could have done more, so I absolutely agree it’s performative
That would make sense. I guess from my point of view, I'd be pretty pissed if I was Iran right now. At least 9 of their nuclear scientists were assassinated last week, and now their nuclear sites have been all bombed. That's as good of a declaration of war as youre going to get. But I can understand why they wouldn't want to wage an all put war if they dont think they're prepared for one.
There's no way they come out on top in an all-out war with the US. Terrorists working unofficially are their best best. Not like there's any lack of people who (justifiably) hate the US.
The ONLY good point to this would be that it would draw the US public into action. A base in the Middle East got hit? People shrug it off, it's nothing new and doesn't affect them. A naval or army base on the East Coast gets a missile hit? At least if there was disagreement on what to do, we'd be arguing about it. Assuming that Iran can even get that far...
And to be clear, it's only a good point in that it would wake people up that shit isn't right, and maybe they'd feel threatened enough for their own welfare to do something.
Fear. And a lot more difficult to successfully hit.
Because these are short to medium range ground fired missiles? They don’t reach that far. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think they have submarines that can get close and fire missiles at the United States proper.
I have no idea. They have a nuclear program, so I assumed they have a somewhat sophisticated and modern military.
They have OIL.
That's a bad assumption, North Korea has nukes.
It's just a bigger stick.
Even if they wanted to, how would they accomplish that?
They do technically have orbital launch capability, which implies they in theory have the capacity to construct an ICBM, even if not with a nuclear warhead necessarily. Granted, the results of such a strike almost certainly would not be worth the costs to them so I've no expectation they'll do such a thing, but they probably could if they wanted to badly enough.
Same way the U.S. flew war planes all the way to Iran.
I can cont on 0 hands how many airbases Iran has access to near the US.
Iran has no ability to do that.
Iran's friends Russia and China certainly do.
I'm not sure those two really do. Any Russian claims have been proven suspect, and China's force protection has always been their Achilles heel.
Really?
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/06/12/navy-deployed-3-destroyers-planes-monitor-russian-submarine-and-frigate-off-florida-coast.html
https://nypost.com/2024/06/12/us-news/four-russian-warships-including-a-nuclear-sub-now-sitting-200-miles-off-the-coast-of-florida/
https://news.usni.org/2023/03/23/northcom-russia-close-to-persistent-nuclear-cruise-missile-attack-sub-presence-off-u-s-coasts
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2023-04-26/u-s-russian-subs-in-atlantic-more-active-than-weve-seen-them-in-years
Perhaps because if they did that, there’s a very high chance trump would nuke them. He’s been itching for a reason to use nukes since his first term, and that would give him the excuse he wants.
e: I think the fact I got 2 opposing comments (he’d do it without justification and he’d be stopped by the CoC even with justification) might be telling here. He’s a monkey with a machine gun, and who knows if justification would work on others in the chain of command? Perhaps they’d rather not risk that.
If Trump wants to nuke them, he nukes them. He doesn't need a reason, he is a demented megalomaniac with a cult following. There will be some more finger-waggling in congress and pearl clutching for the midterms after the fact and that's it. So why appease him or try not to upset him?
Iran probably just thought hitting these targets was easier.
I fucking hate the world we live in.
Maybe, there are a lot of people who would probably not be too keen on doing that through the chain of command. Nukes aren't something you just pull out a brief case and push a button with.