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Insects and Other Animals Have Consciousness, Experts Declare | Quanta Magazine (www.quantamagazine.org)
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An interesting read. "A group of prominent biologists and philosophers announced a new consensus: There’s “a realistic possibility” that insects, octopuses, crustaceans, fish and other overlooked animals experience consciousness." https://www.quantamagazine.org/insects-and-other-animals-have-consciousness-experts-declare-20240419/

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Octopuses are so wildly smart I can't imagine them not being conscious. Of all the animals we should not be eating they're one of the big ones. I'm convinced if they have the chance (over like an evolutionary amount of years) they could develop past being solitary and set up rudimentary societies

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah they are so incredible!

One of the biggest hindrances for their species is the lack of social learning. The mother starves and dies protecting the eggs, so all octopuses have to learn for themselves over their short lifespans.

And that is a testament to their cunning intellect and problem-solving capability. They learn so much and so quickly.

I've wondered what would happen in an experiment where a mother octopus was hooked up to machines to deliver nutrients to prevent her from starving to death while guarding her eggs. What kind of social dynamic would then follow once they hatched? Would she teach her young?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Why do we need machines? Can't we just give her some food? "Hey momma octopus, have a Snicker's. You're not you when you're hungry."

Worth keeping in mind, though, teaching is a skill. I know lots of brilliant people who can't teach worth a damn. And humans are biologically hardwired for teaching. Imagine how hard teaching has got to be for an octopus.