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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Least entitled Tesla owner.

The charge ports on non-Teslas, meanwhile, are also in a different spot on the vehicle, meaning they may have to park parallel to a Supercharger, taking up two spots. That's what happened here; "I had no choice but to park in a way that blocks two stalls," according to the Rivian driver.

Sounds like this guy sucks too unless there were a bunch of spots open or extenuating circumstances.

Others responded that they thought this type of conflict might happen and that it's "unwise" for Tesla to open chargers to other brands while keeping the "Tesla Charging Only" signs up.

No shit! Why even bother keeping the signs up?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I don't normally drive an EV.

But I did rent a Mustang Mach-E for 12 days as I tooled around between Houston, Dallas, and Austin.

At one point I had found a Tesla supercharger and thought it would work (it wouldn't, because it wasn't one of the upgraded ones and didn't support CCS).

The cords on those things are ridiculously short. IIRC the Tesla's have their charge port all in the rear-right corner and when they aren't pull-through, they require Tesla owners to back in very close to the charger.

Most other cars cannot reach the charger (even if it is CCS compatible) due to the placement of their charge ports. Some, like this Rivian, require the driver to park like an ass to use it.

And sometimes you may not have a good option. When I was driving from my hotel (near Galleria) back to IAH, I tried to find a fast charger on the way.

The first one I found (EVConmect I think) was at a Walmart. The one charger that was opened was out-of-order (and according to a local, it had been that way for a while. All the others were occupied and a few were even sitting in their cars at mid-90% and a line forming behind them (which, I don't know much about charger etiquette, but I think that's a faux pas. Charging slows down dramatically after 80 and as I understand it's generally a bad idea to regularly charge past 80 anyway).

The next closest one took me 18 minutes out of my way to a Shell station. My hotel was only 35 minutes or so from the airport.

Oh, and on the way between the cities, there were times when I was at least 75 miles from the nearest charger. Buc-ees almost always had a ton of chargers, but almost all of them Superchargers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because not removing the signs requires the least effort/costs less.

(not saying that's a good reason; especially with how entitled Tesla owners tend to be)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Crowdsource it. Everybody go to your local supercharger and remove the "Tesla charging only" signs yourself.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like this guy sucks too unless there were a bunch of spots open or extenuating circumstances.

I don't think people driving other brands deliberately want to mess with Tesla's super short charging cables. It was Tesla who applied to have their plug standardized, so that they don't have to change their American cars to CCS, now it's IMO also up to Tesla to fit longer cables to their chargers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tesla’s a dick for opening charging up to other brands without making the cord long enough, but without extenuating circumstances it’s a dick move to take up two spaces to charge (I don’t consider “I don’t want to drive 10 minutes down the road” an extenuating circumstance). It’s not something I would do and it’s not something I would expect the lot owner to just put up with if it was them telling me to move it.

Again, I want to emphasize the Tesla guy calling 911 is unhinged. That doesn’t mean other parties can’t also be behaving in a sub-ideal way.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tesla was forced to make their NACS charger an actual standard for the US due to some regulations and rules. Anyways, the gen 4 or 5 charger they have coming has a cable extension for this exact reason. Musk and others noted when they opened up to other manufacturers that it would be difficult to use them due to location of chargers. The Rivian owner isn’t a jerk, just someone who was trying to fast charge and the charger wasn’t built for their vehicle.

As for the signage, 100% they should have taken them down 12/31/23 as that’s the last day they stopped being Tesla specific. All late last year and up until March of this year one after another companies have been falling inline to unify around 1 standard. Thank god (engineers and standards organizations).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I totally get that it may not be physically possible to fit the car in one spot due to the charger positioning and cord length, but if that happened to me and the lot wasn’t virtually empty I would absolutely look for somewhere else to charge. Tesla guy is still the biggest dickhead here, I’m just saying I’d have some shame about taking up two spots if I had any other choice, which includes just leaving and charging somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We're all so wound up about problem we can't fix that we're at each other's throats. The driver that called 911 lashed out at the person in front of him instead of the person who caused the problem in the first place

Why are we blaming a driver for the poor design of the charging station and the entitled attitude of the other driver? If I called the cops because a truck pulling a trailer blocked the pump behind him I'd be the one in trouble.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

If I called the cops because a truck pulling a trailer blocked the pump behind him I'd be the one in trouble.

That is a very apt comparison.

Sometimes we just have to work with the infrastructure we have available, and being an asshole to someone just trying their best is shit behavior.