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KDE Plasma Remains Committed To A Wayland Future: 70%+ Already On Wayland (www.phoronix.com)
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Prominent KDE developer Nate Graham put out a blog post today reaffirming the KDE Plasma's intent that Wayland is their main focus and X11 support continues to be maintained but eventually it will go away. Nate Graham also noted around 73% of KDE Plasma 6 users are already using the Wayland session.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Tbh 73% is low for something as important as a thing you're going to basically enforce. Get to 90% and then we can talk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

From what I read, it was originally higher (82%), but went down because SteamOS has X11 as its default.

You can read more about KDE X11 plan on here: https://pointieststick.com/2025/06/21/about-plasmas-x11-session/

Quoted from the blog: "Current status: Plasma’s X11 session continues to be maintained.

Specifically, that means:

  • We’ll make sure Plasma continues to compile and deploy on X11.
  • Bug reports about the Plasma X11 session being horribly broken (for example, you can’t log in) will be fixed.
  • Very bad X11-specific regressions will probably be fixed eventually.
  • Less-bad X11-specific bugs will probably not be fixed unless someone pays for it.
  • X11-specific features will definitely not be implemented unless someone pays for it. "
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

That is good. I really like that approach.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have 2 computers with KDE which I've been using for the past 6 months or so. I recently read about how to switch to Wayland (log out, find the option, log back in). Both of my computers were using X11, not sure why. Maybe I chose that during installation.

I switched both to Wayland and I'm going to do my best to stick to it. One of my computers has an older Nvidia card but luckily I don't seem to have any problems.

Purely anecdotal, but maybe a large part of the 27% using X11 don't even know the difference.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

X11 is the default. For Plasma 6, so you didn't choose it that's just what it was.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course they're not going to drop it while it's still at 73%.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We'll see about that one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We’ll make sure Plasma continues to compile and deploy on X11.

As for when Plasma will drop support for X11? There’s currently no firm timeline for this, and I certainly don’t expect it to happen in the next year, or even the next two years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Note, they said "compile" and "deploy", not "function" or "work".

That's basically "#vibecoding on release" talk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No you won't.

They won't throw more than a decade of work to the garbage because "30%" and Nvidia. Those issues can be fixed. Want them to be fixed? Stop complaining and contribute.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Honestly just buy a machine that has issues with Wayland and daily it yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bit chicken and egg though, isn't it? Maybe a big desktop environment enforcing Wayland will get people working more on the fixes for the stuff that doesn't work out yet.

I understand people being annoyed if they are in the 30% though, and not trying to dismiss that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe a big desktop environment enforcing Wayland will get people working more on the fixes for the stuff that doesn't work out yet.

Not really or at least not enough.