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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is kinda a bad take imo. I don’t think it’s chrome books that has ruined tech literacy. Maybe it’s younger exposure to even more addictive social media than previous generations?

I’m pretty young. My first mobile device was an iPod touch 4th gen. I figured out how to jailbreak it and I was like 12 at the time. If I ever felt one of these walled garden devices was holding me back, I enjoyed finding a creative solution around that. Since that iPod touch, I jailbroke my Wii and recently a kindle. I also modded a gameboy, but that was different than jailbreaking.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are the advantages of a jailbroken kindle? I’ve thought about it but there isn’t really anything I lack on mine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

My motivation was mostly to ditch Amazon, but in the process I discovered ko reader is both better than Amazon’s reader and does a really good job turning PDFs into readable books.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What did you jailbreak your ipod with, though? Was it a chromebook?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Probably windows 🤮

I think there were jailbreaks that could be done on device, but if I remember correctly this wasn’t one of them. I forget the exact year/iOS version. I wanna say I jailbroke 3 iOS versions in a row, and at that point new things had captured my interest. Eventually I found myself captivated with frontend development.

You can find my latest work at https://blorpblorp.xyz/, the obviously best client for Lemmy and soon PieFed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you had access to a fairly open device, where the system was considerably less restrictive than a Chromebook. Apparently many first time users don't have that luxury any longer. They're stuck with phones and chromebooks (phones with a keyboard slapped on, really). Good luck hacking anything with that locked up shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Someone else pointed out it’s not that difficult to boot Linux on your Chromebook off a thumb drive. A quick search shows it might be slightly complicated but seems pretty doable depending on your model.

Listen I hate Google, but this still seems like a dumb take. There are better things to criticize them for: illegal monopolization of search through anticompetitive practices, making their search product worse on purpose, having no respect for people’s privacy, literally removing their slogan to not be evil, etc).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I just see it as another item on a long list.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not to mention that Chromebooks are Linux (so can be modded for basically anything), but these days have official native support for sideloading any Linux distro you please. All it takes is a flashed USB drive and one button click, then you're totally unrestricted and out of ChromeOS.

If any kid wanted to, they could do that far easier than I could when I was in school. If they become adults, buy a Chromebook, and choose to do nothing with it other than watch YouTube, then it has absolutely nothing to do with the technology that was provided to them during school.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

official native support for sideloading any Linux distro you please.

I thought you had to remove a write protect screw and flash a custom firmware.

Have they stopped that now?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The school doesn't let you do that. Because if you installed Linux you could install games, and then you might get distracted. Never mind the fact that YouTube is still completely available.

I looked into this back when I was in school and there was some weird workaround found by someone on reddit that essentially forced it to do a complete factory reset. I didn't want to get in trouble for doing that, and if I did that I wouldn't have been able to connect to the wifi anymore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I jailbroke my Wii

Yeah I've done this too. Beyond easy. There's literally a website with step-by-step instructions. I imagine it's the same for Kindle, etc.

Googling how to jailbreak something is not the same as having an open and functional development environment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't need to have a dev environment in order to be considered "tech literate".

Just as a single example, an issue I've seen is that kids may not even understand what a file system is or how it works, because they're used to apps like Facebook or Google Drive which abstract away from the concept of a hard-drive, a User folder, file extensions, etc. Then they grow up putting photos on instagram, writing essays on Microsoft Word, and to them it's some unexplained internet magic. They never had first-hand experience with creating and modifying files on a local file system, and so they lack the understanding of what's going on behind the scenes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

may not even understand what a file system is or how it works ... which abstract away from the concept of a hard-drive, a User folder, file extensions, etc.

What's funny is, filesystems, folders, file extensions are already abstractions, there is nothing inherently "right" about those particular abstractions, it's just what we've used for 40 some years... Before that, you might just have blocks on a disk, or a linear stream on a tape, and it was up to you to figure out what went where, and how to find it again. Point being, it's all just a sea of bits, regardless of how you organize them- the goal is to organize them in a way that you can forget the sea of bits.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah it's a fucking abysmal take. More kids had access to the internet and computers because of Chromebooks, without them they'd have had nothing - maybe once an hour in the computer lab each week, assuming they even had one.

Prior to Chromebooks, the most a school could do was "a computer in every classroom". That was it, that was the ambition in the early 2000's and even then most schools failed.

What happened was tech companies made computers easier to use by hiding a lot of that complexity. And average humans were fine with that because shit should just work.

The arguments being raised here about a loss of skills are the same arguments boomers used against millennials because they didn't know how to do DIY and shit like that.

The blame is always squarely on the education system. That system is supposed to set kids up with the skills they need to make it in the wold and tech literacy is one of many, many areas that is hugely underserved.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Before Chromebooks we had one aging computer lab that the entire school had to reserve and share. Kids never even learned to type. I was able to improve students typing ability before they hit High School.

Because we had Chromebooks (that I raised money for with fundraisers) my students were able to learn to use digital data logging of science experiments using probes, my students were able to learn to design websites, I was able to teach them programming basics using Scratch, I was able teach kids basic IT management since I created a team of kids to assist with tech problems students and teachers had with their technology. I taught them CAD with TinkerCAD, I taught them video editing, I taught them image editing, etc.

Chromebooks were amazing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

were fine with that because shit should just work.

This was Apple's literal marketing campaign when they were trying to make Macs popular again

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

And say what you will about apple, it worked (the slogan, not the Macs)