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Yes you should take it, if you got no other options.
Then you immediately update your CV with your new job title and jump ship for more pay. If the orginal company offers to match the pay you say "you had the chance to pay me more. If you valued me that much, you could have paid me that much from the start"
The reasons for me to change job would be:
I guess the part I don't get about everyone saying to take it and immediately start looking for a new job using your new title is that the new job doesn't ask you how much experience or time you have with your new title?
Like, do they really not ask for 2+ years experience in that position or do you just lie to them or do you say, "Yeah, about 3 days now!" ?
From what I've heard is recuritment has a sort of preference for candidates.
So that's starts: People they know that can do the job.
People that they know, that know someone that can do the job.
Then I guess it would be people already doing the job.
So you're not going to be in as good of a position as someone that has 2+ years in the business. But what it does show is that the company you worked for, for a while, thought you was good enough to promote to that level. It's definitely going to make you more likely to get the job at a competitor. If it doesn't just keep apply for 6 months. By that time you will have 6 months experience.
You might need a month on the job, ratger than 3 days, just to show you been trained to run that job.
Also just because a job says 2+ years experience doesn't mean they wont overlook that. It's just that's what they prefer.
Ah ok, well I guess that makes sense.
Yep. Enjoying about $400 more per paycheck after my last employer shuffled my duties around for no additional compensation. "Duties as assigned" being vague works both ways.
Never heard of duties as assigned, but that is fucking bullshit.
This right here.
I cannot understand why this is so hard to get. People on here whining about their employer using them. Well, yes they are. Use them back. It's just business, it's expected on both sides of the table.
Last three times I jumped, I increased my pay by $12 -> $22 -> $32. I could go again, but I'm kinda fat, happy and lazy ATM.
One of the biggest hurdles for me is the gap in medical coverage and uncertainty of what is covered next. I have a genetic condition that requires very expensive medication. Jumping jobs and hoping COBRA payments aren't insane is a big risk, so I don't feel confident jumping quickly between jobs if one doesn't work out.
I'm picturing you on a porch in a Rockin chair with chewing some grass, occasionally stopping to look around and go "yuup".
I'd like that.
Are you actively watching me?!
"yuup"
Don’t go back on your intent to leave for a better job. Some employers will see you as disloyal if you take the raise and stay. You’re usually better off leaving anyway.
Yep. Soon as you commit to looking, you commit to leaving.
I told my last supervisor about every interview I was on; how it went, what I thought, etc. After a year I left abruptly (ie the pace at which they'd fire me). They were surprised, even after I'd been telling my supe about my hunting for a year.
This. My buddy/former manager accepted a counter offer and lasted less than 6 months before they fired him, and made his working life miserable during that time. Just reinforced the mentality in me to never trust the counter offer of a place I already want to leave.
If you take the raise and stay, you're now a bigger number on the same asshole bean counter's spreadsheet. Maybe the biggest in your role. That's not a long term move.
Being the highest paid is always the best move.
Highest-paid-off is first laid-off.
There is rarely a situation where you should allow your employer to match the offer you have in hand.
They had the opportunity to do so and then failed to properly retain you. If they realize how much losing you will cost them in productivity, that's on them, not you.
It's not personal. It's literally business.
You could try negotiating regular pay raises, start with a match and require 5% per year after that.
If they ain't paying you enough to stay they're highly unlikely to honor the idea of regular raises. They've already shown they're willing to low ball you if they can get away with it so fuck taking the risk of staying.
Yup. You're liable to be downsized in a couple months anyway.