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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because modern morality would reject the idea that an omnipotent being would need to torture someone to death to absolve humanity of the "sin" of acquiring knowledge of good and evil from actions they took prior to understanding the difference between good and evil. Whereas 2000 years ago that concept might have been more palatable.

Or that somehow it is acceptable to torture people for eternity for losing a guessing game you created. We have only 100 years to pick the right answer, should we make everything just and fair so it's easy to figure out there was a plan? Or give cancer to children?

Not to mention just torturing some dude to win a bet with Satan. Wait, isn't that a bet with one of the creations that doesn't have the free will? Isn't an omnipotent being actually above needing to prove things to the devil?

Either the Bible is a work of fiction embracing the morality of the era it was written in, or it's perfectly normal for an omnipotent being to create things with free will but flip out and do tortures or mass genocides when the free will is used incorrectly. Can you imagine how you'd perceive people acting out these stories today? "Hey boss, I need the day off, I'm hearing voices telling me to take my child up a mountain to kill him, so I'm going to do that."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What makes you assume that a higher power would adhere to your moral code?

You don't actually know, but because certain possibilities make you emotionally uncomfortable, you choose to reject them. It's totally fine for you to choose to believe whatever you like. But from a purely rational perspective, you cannot prove your assertion; it's based on faith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

If you assert a higher power with a more advanced moral code than mine would condone selling women into sexual slavery I am pretty sure you have already lost the argument.

But that higher power isn't even consistent with its own moral code. Remember when it sent bears to maul a bunch of children for teasing a bald dude? I assume you will say it is foolhardy to assume it is morally wrong to maul children to death for a childish mistake? That's absurd, though, the Commandment is not killing. Maybe god should have tossed in an eleventh: "bald dudes are off-limits, kids, bother someone else."

From a purely rational perspective, I have to reject the Abrahamic religions as being fantasies from cultures with barely developed moral codes, as that is the infinitely more plausible explanation.

If I cannot find my keys, I don't "from a purely rational perspective" have to accept that pixies might have hidden them. Rejecting the existence of mischievous pixies has nothing to do with my emotions towards pixies.