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No one has to vote for Genocide Joe. Imagine calling people tankies while living in the most authoritarian country on earth.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/262961/countries-with-the-most-prisoners/
All leftists are in tears, Biden is a center-right Capitalist. Leftists should vote for Biden, but they can understandably be upset that they have to vote for a Neoliberal just to prevent a fascist, while liberals and fascists get to gleefully trot to the ballot box and vote for someone that actually represents their views.
You want leftists to side with you happily? Maybe try appealing to leftists, instead of running on the basis of not being a fascist.
neoliberalism is fascism
That's what exactly no theory does to someone.
Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism. Neoliberalism is letting Capitalism loose, which will result in Capitalists gaining power and creating an absolute bourgeois state to oppress the Workers, typically by providing an "enemy" as a response to increasing disparity and a slipping of the grasp of Capital.
Fascism is a response to Neoliberalism, but is not the same, and in the US election the Neoliberal party and the fascist party vary significantly when it comes to social issues. Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance, and those I love are not privledged enough to not be in danger.
no, neoliberalism is fascism. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.
You contradicted yourself. Neoliberalism is not fascism, it provides the breeding grounds for fascism.
neoliberalism is fascism. I didn't contradict myself.
Elaborate. You said it's fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?
This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That's like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.
fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don't think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.
fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.
neoliberalism is fascism.
You explained what I already said: Neoliberalism creates the conditions for fascism. When one candidate is a Neoliberal, they leave the door open for fascism. When one candidate is a fascist, you're straight jumping to fascism.
Delaying the slide to fascism by voting neoliberal is the preferred course of action.
You're a fed, you have no knowledge of theory and exist purely to spoil the pot.
A tiger cub is still a tiger. You can cuddle and pet a tiger cub. Even let your kids play with it. But a full grown tiger? That's dangerous to have around, especially if it gets hungry.
Sure, so then there's no difference in voting to be locked in a room alone with a tiger cub vs an adult tiger, got it.
The tiger cub buys time to make meaningful grassroots change, even if it still continues the path to an eventual adult tiger.
after 4 years, all tigers are adult tigers.
Nope. Obama didn't result in fascism even after 8 years.
You're a fed.
huh. do you remember 2015? chuds running around california knifing queer kids, marching in the street shouting for trump. then, a year later, guess who was elected.
Yep, and it got worse after Trump got elected. Obama wasn't the fascism, even if fascism is rising thanks to Neoliberalism.
neoliberalism is fascism. obama is fascist.
Social Democracy is Communism. Bernie is a Communist.
No, moderate policies are not extremist policies.
i don't consider obama moderate. he was the most extreme deporter in chief we've ever seen. he ran out of bombs persuing imperialist goals. he killed american citizens without due process. he was a well-propagandized fascist.
Obama was evil. Republicans are worse, especially Trump. Siding with the worse evil does in fact make you reactionary.
i'm not siding with republicans or trump.
Yes you are. If you aren't voting for Biden, the only other option is Trump. Abstaining from voting, or spoiling your vote, is a vote for Trump.
You are nothing more than a virtue signaling reactionary that does not at all care about the Proletariat.
this is election misinformation.
no, i expect to have more than 2 choices on my ballot.
obama ran out of bombs and deported more people than bush or trump.
in fact, at the outset of his presidency, he promised a new era of cooperation between business and government. that's literally mussolini's fascism.
It is not literally musollinis fascism. Certainly a start, but if you're legitimately saying mussolini is equivalent to Obama then again, you're a theoryless fed, and likely an actual fascist trying to commit fascist apologia.
Please, read theory for once.
mussolini's fascism, once, had a start as well.
It did, yes.
You are advocating that there is no difference between fascism and pre-fascism, so letting fascism happen is okay.
This is reactionary behavior and in no way helps the Proletariat.
no, i'm saying that fascism is bad and it should be resisted at every step with no compromise.
But you aren't. You're supporting fascism just so you can virtue signal and LARP as a leftist without doing any actual Materialist analysis.
i'm not supporting fascism: i'm calling it out everywhere.
No you aren't. You're committing fascist apologia by calling everything Capitalist fascism, and enabling fascism by intentionally spoiling your vote. You are a reactionary and have done no Materialist analysis.
no, i'm not.
Tankies are probably more like this:
A smart person knows you don’t help destroy a democracy to teach people a lesson. This is why people usually think tankies are ignorant foolish idealistic children.
Grow up.
I’m not the one using political slurs.
No, you just whine and cry about bullshit you knew nothing about several months ago- and post shit memes.
You got me. I’m a 12 year old who chose the name TokenBoomer.
Sounds just dumb enough to be true to me.
Tankies don't know their own history. Stalin helped to found Israel, expecting it to be socialist. USSR was the first to recognise it de jure and Czechoslovakia supplied it with weapons.
Later, when Israel sided with the west, USSR started a policy of anti-zionism, restricted rights of Jewish people and supplied weapons to Israel's enemies.