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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They were too small a group to appeal to, now they're solely to blame.

Which is it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They were too small a group to appeal to

That was always a lie. But they are among the least reliable voters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was always a lie. But they are among the least reliable voters.

I mean, you can't ignore people or treat them with undisguised contempt if you want them to be reliable voters.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think that that is looking at the problem from the wrong angle (even if it is extremely common). We need to not give a fuck what they think of us as we subvert their party and force it into something that's actually at all Left of center. That's impossible with people sitting out elections (especially primaries) and offering zero meaningful resistance to or action against the fascist Right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That’s impossible with people sitting out elections (especially primaries)

democrats successfully argued in court that they don't need to run honest primaries. They didn't even have them last year.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do you read "take responsibility for their impact" and then jump to "solely to blame." I swear people just hear what they want so they have a reason to be angry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Are they to blame, or are they small enough to ignore?

Which one? I get that you want both. But you only get one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

I never said either. I called out your contradiction and you got really defensive and made assumptions for some reason...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm curious as to why you think you have the kind of authority in anyone's life to tell them they have to decide between two dipshit choices you present them.

These dumbfucks made an incredibly stupid decision, whether they ended up being too small a group to make the difference or not. They're still dumbfucks that chose their own perceived moral superiority over the wellbeing of their country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m curious as to why you think you have the kind of authority in anyone’s life to tell them they have to decide between two dipshit choices you present them.

Choosing both is logically inconsistent. I get that you hate progress and anyone who opposes genocide and want to ignore them so you can move to the right and have your genocide. That's disgusting, but fine, if you want to choose that, it's all centrists do. But if you do it on the grounds that the people you hate for not being republican-adjacent enough for your liking aren't a big enough group to matter, you don't get to act like they matter after the fact just so you don't have to stop moving to the right.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Found the 3rd party voter I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The democratic party is a corpse these days.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's the assumption whenever someone contradicts centrist orthodoxy.

It's wrong, but centrists never let that stop them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You mean like the assumptions you made about me in your comment above? A bit hypocritical. But I guess you never let that stop you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have fun blaming the people whose votes you didn't want for the loss you earned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I didn't want their votes?

How did I personally earn this loss?

Just pile on the hateful assumptions till you craft the world view you desire I guess. It seems like reality and truth are just inconveniences for you. MAGA thinks the same way. Do you by chance think America is great again too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

MAGA thinks the same way. Do you by chance think America is great again too?

And we're back to the standard centrist standby. "anyone to my left is all the way to my right."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And we’re back to the standard centrist standby. “anyone to my left is all the way to my right.”

I'm beginning to think this isn't just you building strawmans, maybe you're unable to understand what I'm saying.

Let me try again:

You sound like MAGA, not because of your political views, but because of your relationship with the truth. Which is: make wild claims to support your stance with no evidence, then layer in some insults. That's how MAGA operates, and it's what you're doing right now. Never once did I mention your political views or you being left or right. Nor have I mentioned my political views. Just your wild claims and assumptions, and how they are very much how MAGA chooses to communicate as well.

For example, you said I didn’t want their votes. What proof do you have to make such a claim?

You said to have fun with the loss I earned. How exactly did I earn this loss?

I had already asked these questions to better understand the assumptions you are making, but you seemed to avoid them because they were inconvenient. Much like MAGA does as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m beginning to think this isn’t just you building strawmans, maybe you’re unable to understand what I’m saying.

Condescension and gaslighting. Should really make a bingo card for this. You're pretending that not buying what you're saying is not understanding it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Are you able to answer my questions, or are you just going to avoid them and dance around topics while throwing insults? I've asked them twice now but you seem unwilling to explain what you said. Almost like you know it's ridiculous, unfounded, and petty.

They're claims you made, I just want to understand them better.

Condescension and gaslighting.

Oh, the irony.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They’re claims you made, I just want to understand them better.

And now sealioning. In case you haven't noticed, I'm not going to participate on your terms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

On my terms, by asking you to explain what you said? I'm such a troll with 2 simple questions, asking what you meant by your statement. We both know why you really won't answer.

I don't think there was ever a time you weren't sealioning this whole conversation lol. Nothing you said has felt genuine. You've just tried to cover it up with a Gish Gallop and now refuse to participate because you're being focused on 2 questions and the absurd claims you made. We both know it, can we stop the act.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think there was ever a time you weren’t sealioning this whole conversation lol

And now DARVO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can use all the loaded terms you want to avoid blame and deflect but let's look back to how this started.

The irony is you are the one reversing and playing victim. You're committing DARVO while using it lol. You literally attacked me, then played the victim, and trying to say I was attacking you just for asking you to explain. Lol. This horrible thing I did to you was asking you to explain some attack you made. What a cry baby, sounds like you're terminally online. And looking at your profile, yep.

You said I didn't want their votes and I deserved to lose.

You made this wild claims and attacks. With no evidence. No reason. Just threw a temper tantrum for no reason. You seemingly can't control your emotions.

Then, when I asked you to explain these unhinged statements you just insulted me and deflected, because you know you were wrong but you're too proud to admit it. That's such a toxic trait.

And now you cry about every comment and how you're such a victim. You sound like you'd be an abusive partner, saying outlandish and unfounded insults then blaming them when they ask for clarification. You sound abusive AF. Another MAGA trait too.

Eh, on second thought, I'll just block you. You admitted to trolling. You refuse to answer basic questions. You constantly attack people and then cry the victim. You're a terminally online waste of time. You made a BS claim then cowered as soon as you were made to face it. This attempt to save face or whatever isn't working bud and it's a waste of time.

Also, with how abusive you seem I hope to God you're single. But with your attitude I don't think I have to worry too much lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Doubling down on the gaslighting and DARVO.