Icarus

There is so much to unpack… Just the fact of living in a “developed” country means that it’s citizens’ base footprint are impacted by the infrastructure available - and when it’s Switzerland or Japan it amounts to 4+TonsCO2 per annum, whether you’re above or below the poverty line…

Some argue that the current rise of fascism Eli’s a direct consequence of the rarefaction of cheap energy sources and of further virgin ecosystems to exploit. (I can provide some sources if anyone is interested).I think that it does make sense, but only time will tell. Not that anything we can put in place now would reverse the tendency.

Mate, this is very meta with the OP in a bad way. Dismissing someone this way really goes against the values here. Not everyone had the chance to take higher education courses. And not having that chance does not invalidate immediately their views.

It was never about reality. By simply stating it repeatedly the damage is done. Now we pick up the pieces.

The average person in the developed world is an active part of the problem - not much out fault to be honest, we are (all here I assume) part of a social system and it’s very hard to live within limits when the whole country is functioning much beyond. Just by BEING in the UK your carbon footprint goes +1.5TonsCO2/year from public service and infrastructure emissions… (if you’re in Switzerland it’s 4+Tons)

They’ve definitiy gained points from me here. I’m no fan of Rachel Reaves and the policies they implemented so far looked like a crossover between Lib-Dem and Torries.