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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago

That's irrelevant...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

You continue to ignore that what I’m saying is right: you only care because you can blame the USA.

That's a baseless assertion, why would I entertain it.

You are choosing to be here.

Right. See, if you're actually curious to talk to Palestinians, we can clear up these idiotic talking points you keep repeating brainlessly. Let's try. This story is very familiar with many Palestinian Americans, but this is mine.

No, I didn't choose to come here. My parents did. You're right, they could have chosen to stay in a refugee camp and became mujahedeen, but they were born right around the Nakba and they only know Palestine under occupation. They were not very well educated, they learned their trades through apprenticeship and UNRWA schools.

They left Palestine for Jordan because of economic chokehold Israel has on Palestinian, they had no choice. They them immigrated to the US again for economic reasons. They were not very political, they looked at Arafat the same way you seem to look at Democrats: genuine fighters for the cause and just waiting to bounce back. They didn't know what we know now, that he sold Palestine for personal comfort.

I was an older teenager when I immigrated with my family, again not by choice. As a Palestinian/Jordanian I knew of the struggle, but I knew the Jordanian propaganda version: (then) king Hussein is the protector of the holy sites, he saved the West Bank by annexing it, and was working hard for a two state solution. We (most Palestinian expats) accepted the two state solution.

We lacked the class consciousness and historical readings to understand that the two-state solution was always a distraction while Israel conspires with Jordan and Egypt to slowly eliminate all of Palestine. Look at the map of Palestinian territories today.

So in short, we didn't know. We didn't know that the biggest misstep Arafat made was to recognize Israel, we didn't know that America's interests are entirely aligned with erasing Palestine, we didn't know the Democrats position of support for a two state solution was fake.

We bought everything the Democrats said about human rights and morals, we celebrated Obama, we voted for Biden and the first time and worked SO FUCKING HARD to convince everyone we know to vote for Biden because democracy depends on it... We elected our Hitler.

We're awake now. We've seen enough shredded babies, enough IOF soldiers publishing their own gleeful war crimes, and we watched the Democrats blame the babies for being human shields while our tax dollars funded Biden's unwavering support for the genocide. The illusion was destroyed, the propaganda became obvious, they'll use Palestinians or African Americans or LGBTQ Americans and they'll give those communities small advantages while preserving a system that's designed to exploit all of us for the benefit of the ruling class.

The issue is not America, the issue is capitalism. Capitalism is the root cause of all of the above. Hard to communicate that to an audience that lacks class consciousness in a thread specifically about US domestic politics, so I'm attempting to just put questions in peoples' heads so maybe they'll start asking more questions that should lead to the same conclusion: the Democrats are not your friends.

If you came to learn the party you supported would take an exception for ALL of the positions you supported them for when it comes to Palestine, why wouldn't you ask questions?

People genuinely argue that Trump is worse for Palestine, but so far he's been mostly talk. We've seen the worst of the failing genocide under Biden and he showed no signs of remorse. Trump is worse for the US.

Both parties want to take us right and turn us into wage slaves though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

For the record, I see futility in arguing with a (possibly a bot) disingenuous asshole. I'm responding for posterity so maybe others passing by can see this conversation and judge for themselves.

I am Palestinian, and I'm living in America speaking not my native tongue and arguing with an asshole who in response to me saying "Democrats backed a genocide" wrote all the awful shit you did. You're a bad person.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Both parties suck and are ruining the country. Here's an idea, let's take the jackass that jumped around with a chainsaw and sawed away people's benefits before giving two Seig Heils at the worse of the two horrible parties, let's go with his new party.

What a joke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So I made an argument about US domestic policy and somehow I need to prove to you that I have another account where I criticize other countries for the genocide of my people before you'll accept that you're being a super weird ZioNazi right now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

This account is 3 days old, I barely have any comments. This is so stupid I'm not sure how to respond.

In a thread about domestic politics in the US, I made the claim that Democrats fully backed a genocide, and you're still going on about me not talking about other countries. Are you dense, or a Zionist pos trying to detail the conversation?

It's just weird. You're just weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

The comparison was to cash, not credit cards. The government doesn't know who I hand cash to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll never come back because studios will never release new movies on them.

Piracy is coming back strong, but I don't personally see myself going back to burning DVDs instead of buying HDD/SSDs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Why do you want me to complain about other countries in a thread specifically about US domestic politics?

That's so weird.

All of the countries are guilty, especially the Arab puppet rulers, starting with the tomato king Abdullah of Jordan and khara Sisi of Egypt who allow the transport of commercial goods to Israel while blocking aid to Gaza and intercepting Iranian rockets on the heads of Jordanians. None of that is relevant when discussing American politics.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I invite you to reflect on the words I'm saying instead of just focusing on the high you're getting from what you perceive as owning me or whatever.

Your responses and this baseless rejection of my identity is so aggressive and weird that it's not triggering any emotional response in me, I'm just confused.

I don't think I said anything to justify your hostility, I even agreed with your irrelevant point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Why are you shocked?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Oh no not AI videos! The horror. Bring back the 2,000lbs bombs on tent encampments and leaving babies to starve to death in hospitals, bring back white phosphorus on civilians, bring back normalizing dead baby pieces hanging from the rubble. But not AI videos!!!

Biden is our Hitler, and our history books will reflect that. You're correct, the Gaza genocide is just one small chapter in the history of England and then the US colonizing Palestine.

Be consistent, if you're able to credit him for the good things he did instead of saying he's just building on what Trump left him, you should be able to recognize that he could have ended this genocide but refused.

Even if Trump was a good president/person and wanted to end it, there's nothing left of Gaza for the remaining population. Biden already wiped it out.

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