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I imagine it'd be the same as printing of a copy of the Mona Lisa and putting it up on your wall for your own viewing pleasure. Completely legal.

Where as printing it off and then charging other people to see it would be illegal.

It does make for a funny story, but yh, probably wouldn't give it to the GF!

I think some people do fucked up shit regardless of what they're taught and it requires a solution that's slightly more complex than "just teach the kids right and wrong".

Whilst I strongly encourage good parenting, you could have the most fucked up parents imaginable and still easily be able to understand why rape and murder isn't a benefit to society.

imo the solution is just not to do anything sketchy, and teach younger people what's right and wrong, so that the problem can get solved with a better society in the future

Ah yes, why didn't my parents or their grandparents think to teach their kids that rape and murder is wrong!? It's all so clear now!!!

I'm cool if I can only faintly smell it, but when someone puts on too much it's eye watering and as you say, they'd be better without.

Yep, if I was homeless with no prospects, especially in winter, a prison would be looking pretty attractive.

Whatever the source, I don't think it's surprising that women are a lot more selective than men, it makes a huge amount of sense in evolutionary terms.

And given that a small percentage of men are getting chased by the majority of women, it's unsurprising that they're used to getting screwed over, causing all men to get cast with the same aspersion.

I know it's unrelated to the thread, but I'd personally never go to a country that doesn't treat, women, gays, apostates etc as equals, I think these countries are absolutely terrible and I'm not fooled by them having "show cities" where they pretend that they're not that way.

A country that still has a medieval mindset in the third millennium is not getting a penny from me.

Sometimes prophecies are self fullfilling, treat a man like the worst example of the gender he represents, through no fault of his own and you might find he behaves less than appropriately.

I'm not saying that excuses the behaviour, but if women looked at me and immediately thought "potential rapist/murderer" I can't say that wouldn't upset me and possibly cause me to act less than amicably.

I mean what the fuck am I supposed to do? Somehow talk the worst male scum out of their depraved behaviour, or somehow try to convince all women that "I'm one of the good ones"? That's never going to happen no matter how hard I try.

We all need to be realistic and keep things in perspective. It's not OK to treat people as the worst of the people they identify with, it's no better than the "all Muslims are terrorists" mentality.

You make good points. You're getting the wrong end of the stick but I don't think it's worth trying to explaine myself further.

I know I generalised but I think what I said is mostly true and I'm just as entitled as you are to put my point of view forward, sorry that I have a different opinion.

I'd like to make it clear that I'm not saying it's OK to be pushy but making a distinction about showing sexual interest that can sometimes be a grey area and a fine line to tread.

If you want to go on a hundred dates with the same person before you're OK with sexual escalation to make sure someone has pure intentions or whatever, you do you, but it's not typical and I expect that they'll move on after enough time of wondering why they're dating someone that appears frigid or un-interested in sex.

One of my best friends said "if I'm on a third date with a guy and he's not made a move, he's probably got a tiny penis". I know that's a horrible thing to say and to hear, but it's true. Most women expect men to make a move at some point and if they don't, she'll be wondering what's wrong.

There's no need for the hostility, though given the election I understand you're probably just lashing out and it's not personal. I hope you feel better soon.

It's factual. The source is Tinder, 80% of women are only swiping on the top 20% of men and I believe that extrapolates to real life, I also don't think it's surprising, I understand why anyone would want an attractive mate. Sorry that upsets you.