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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

Nothing to research. They're all the same bad or will get bad in the foreseeable future. Only thing that matters is the screen technology and the specs of your external media center.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I will be very sad when my 16 yo Sony Bravia TV dies

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I'm in the exact same situation. Old bravias were just about perfect for a television. I dread to think of what they are like now

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Instead of buying a TV, look for a digital signage display. It's a TV, but with none of the "smart" crap on it.

Alternatively, just don't hook your device up to the internet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

The smart stuff isn't the issue. It is all the connected shit.

There are plenty of smart TVs that you just don't have to connect to the internet. Then it can't download ads, be laggy or reboot because of updates, send all your data to the manufacturer, ...

Just connect a small PC over HDMI like you would a dumb TV, and other than a slow boot it will work the same.

I can recommend TLC as a TV that doesn't require an internet connection. But I would steer clear of ever connecting it to a network, the remotes have microphones in them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My Samsung tv also has microphones for voice control.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

This is good advice, but I really wish we lived in a world where consumers could bond together and get laws passed that make this type of crap illegal so that buying TV's (or any type of appliance for that matter) didn't involve having to do research on weird non-consumer hardware just to have a nice experience.

EDIT: some morons in my replies keep on saying shit about "voting republican" and We Do In OtHeR CoUnTRiEs. I'm not american, I don't live in america, and I cannot remember the last time I set foot in america. Shut the fuck up, nobody asked you.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago

In other words, you wish we lived in a democracy instead of a plutocracy. 'Cause that's exactly how it's supposed to work. This thread is squarely about the FTC failing to do its goddamn job, because this should not be legal.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I needed a second t.v for the basement and i decided to just not buy one.

I had an old mini projector I repurposed and there a nice tv upstairs/phones for anything else.

Cant wait till "minimal" stuff becomes the trend.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Joke's on you! Projectors get this "smart" bullshit, too!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not one from 2018

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Not as bad as this, but when I moved to a new town I got a free big TV with my new ISP. I was going with that ISP anyways so a free 4k HDR TV on top was a nice bonus.

I wish I had gotten some other bonus. Viewing angle is atrocious and it is impossible to get rid of the input lag (no there isn't a gaming mode or similar) so no games with precise timing can be played.

So now we have a big living room TV that is too good to replace with something better but bad enough to be a little bit annoying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Trade in for something slightly "worse" then?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Give it to your parents or some other older people who would use it just as a TV and buy yourself a decent TV.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It really doesn't sound too good to replace? It sounds like you got free junk, and haven't actually bought a TV yet?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don't have the budget anyways. And it's good enough for the wife and kids, they don't see any issues. And by now I'm disabled and can't get into the living room anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 3 days ago (12 children)

No way, tell me that isnt real. I remember hearing a patent about being able to deliver ads over hdmi but dont tell me it actually got implemented.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago

Why would this need "deliver ads over HDMI". It's on the telly, ie the HDMI signal has already been transmitted and now the TV itself is overlaying web-derived images in one corner, the same way it will overlay the guide or whatever when you open it.

[–] [email protected] 164 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

That ad is not over HDMI. Its a smart TV it inserts the ad on its own.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Just dont give the thing internet access then...

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I totally believe this kind of thing could happens, but I’d expect broader outrage if it were.

When I set up my LG tv it wanted to show promoted content on the Home Screen and the screensaver.

I never connect my TV to the internet. People jerk saying they add wireless modems to them but in reality they don’t have to, most prime leave all the telemetry and “AI” features enabled.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Look up Amazon's "Sidewalk" network. They don't need your internet. They have your neighbors internet.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

picture looks like a 'shop. look at bottom right corner of tv.

but, it's inevitable. corporate greed knows no limit, knows no boundaries.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/hdmi-customized-ad-insertion-patent-would-show-rokus-ads-atop-non-roku-video/

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

It's a plant blocking the TV. If this is edited it is actually done really well.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure the picture is edited, but in either case, it would be a lot easier to paste it onto a screencap of the game and open that full screen on the tv...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Isn't that just the plant blocking part of the TV?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

The plant is also receiving blue/white light from the ad. Pretty sure it's legit.

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