Maybe it should show the number of calories you'd burn going up the stairs. It would be a small number, but it's better than 0.
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My former job used to have that on the stairs. Was a nice motivator for me.
For 75kg (roughly average South Korean male weight) and 7" step height (standard in the US I think, not sure about Korea), this is about 0.13kJ/step.
By coincidence, the human metabolic efficiency is (roughly) the same as the conversion between kJ and food (kilo)calories, meaning this would be (very roughly) 0.1 calories/step.
Not much, given a single French fry is maybe 5-10 calories. But it's better than nothing!
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You should see the names of asian big and tall clothing shops.
Asia doesn't fuck around when it comes to conformity.
Right to American embassy?
That doesn't look like Korea, I'm guessing Japan. The text looks like Chinese characters, and Korea hasn't used those for hundreds of years. Korean script is more blocky and easily recognizable even with this incredible level of blur.
It's the Sangbong subway station in Seoul.
Anyone can translate this?
The small amount of pixels make it look Klingon, lol.
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The black speech bubble looks absolutely like Korean to me. It's possible the text underneath is simply a translation for Japanese and Chinese, though.
Perhaps. I can't make out the black bubble, it's too blurry, but I can definitely tell the white bubble is not Korean (SO is Korean and I can read but not speak Korean). If there were just a few more pixels, I could probably read what it says, and I can distinguish Japanese and Chinese, so I could make an educated guess about it being a translation.
I think it's more like parachute pants to the right, hipster pants to the left. No regular pants allowed.
I like the bollard that would make it uncomfortable for really fat people to get by.
Not to mention folks on crutches.
I guess there's an upper limit where they're like, "Hey, this is getting ridiculous. Take the stairs."
Apparently Americans aren't welcome here.
I've seen escalator mechanisms fail before, I could believe that's a dual purpose for it (as well as presumably carts or scooters)
I think it is more of presenting a choice.
Do you want to be fit and slim? Take the stairs.
Do you want to be fat? Take the escalator.
Anyone know what the speech bubble says?
Speech bubble doesn't have enough pixels to be read
That’s why they’re black.
Edit: To be clear here I was attempting a pun based on read sounding like red. Hence not enough pixels to be red means it’s black.
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it's not any less problematic if that's the case because it still assumes people taking the escalator do it because they want to, rather than having like a limp or something. that sort of normalized stigma isn't good.
Yeah as a disabled person seeing that would kind of suck.
People with meaningful physical disabilities that make it borderline impossible to climb up stairs account for... A very small slice of the population. The rest of the population should be bullied into a lifestyle that improves physical and mental health.
i'm sorry did you say bullied into a lifestyle that promotes physical and mental health?
Correct, I did say that, and I'm not taking it back. Actually being healthy is better than pretending it's fine to be fat. If everywhere you go, people tolerate your lard, you'll forget the increased issues that come along with being overweight.
you know something interesting? your way is the norm. most fat people are ashamed all the time. the fat acceptance movement is not about saying it's fine to be fat, it's about saying that you, fat person, are not less of a human being for being overweight. the movement exists because the bullying is the default, and it is driving people into depression.
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I agree. I used to live in the south and knew I was chubby but had no idea I was fat until I lost weight and moved away (not a coincidence).
We need less coddling of fat people. I know most fat people are aware they are, but if you think your concern level should be a 3 when your doctor thinks it's an 8, that's a huge fucking problem.
I know people in their thirties who aren't concerned that they're obese and diabetic from their diet decisions which could be reversed if they just realized the severity of their circumstance. They just live in a world where it's rare to get any feedback about it, and sadly a lot of doctors don't even say that much to them about it from I can tell.
The idea that there are people advocating against extremely fat people having to pay for two seats on planes is a batshit example of the direction we need to go essentially opposite of.
We literally let kids be traumatized for life by bullies and do not much to stop it, yet somehow full-grown adults are so fragile they supposedly cannot handle any subtle implication that they are fat and need to live healthier....
We literally let kids be traumatized for life by bullies and do not much to stop it, yet somehow full-grown adults are so fragile they supposedly cannot handle any subtle implication that they are fat and need to live healthier....
i think those two things may be more closely related that you think...
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Surely those people can disregard a picture on the floor, no? Anyone with any form of disability has to deal with far more nonsense than this (revolving doors, for example).
it's not about the people who have to take the escalator. it's about what people who have the choice think about them.
if you've ever been mad at someone who parked in a handicap spot only to then get out and have seemingly nothing be visibly wrong with them, you know the thoughts i mean.
I'm only mad if they don't have handicap signage on their vehicle, because a lot of disabilities aren't immediately apparent. For example, my sister-in-law has been diagnosed w/ POTS, but can walk unassisted over moderate distances and frequently doesn't bother w/ a wheelchair (leaning on a cart is usually good enough). However, some days it's much worse, and getting back to the car can be a real struggle. She usually carries a pop-up stool in case she needs a rest, so that would be the only indicator (and hers is pretty compact and not super obvious at what it is).
I'm pretty sure nobody actually cares who rides an escalator, and if they do, they could see a cane and quickly conclude why they made that choice.
but then you understand it, because some people get really mad at people with signage that don't have visible disability. and the illusion of choice presented on this picture is part of that mindset.
analysing things like this is never about the consequences for a single person, but the consequences on the thought patterns of the society that puts these up and have them in their mind while going about their day.
if someone hurls a misguided insult at you for not taking the stairs, no biggie. if society at large quietly shuns you for it, that's not gonna be good for your mental health in the long run.
some people get really mad
Sure, some people are douchebags. I highly doubt that is any kind of majority, just a very vocal minority.
I doubt most people would even look at this sign, and most of those that do probably won't care one way or another if a visibly fit person takes the escalator. They might snigger a bit to their friends after (hey, I saw a dumb westerner taking the escalator, they obviously don't care about health), but if this really is Korea, nobody will say or do anything about it, even if it's someone they know.
I may be completely misguided here, but that's my take from having been married to a Korean (moved from Korea after finishing K-12) for over 10 years (assuming this is Korea; the white text certainly isn't Korean, but I can't make out the black text). Nobody says anything to strangers in public, and especially not something that could embarrass them...
in Scandinavian culture there's this thing called Janteloven. it's from a Danish book about a guy that moves to a small town and is basically silently bullied by its population. it's related to tall poppy syndrome in that it describes how society does "othering". basically, if you are in any way different you will become an outcast, not because anyone does anything to you, but because nobody does anything for you.
if you're a tourist it's whatever. if you live there it can be soul crushing.
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Obviously I'm obese because I decided to be born with a spinal defect. I should make better choices.
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I think I disagree with you on this one. With obesity reaching pandemic levels internationally, I think forcing simple healthy choices is actually a great solution that helps a larger majority than those who may be stigmatized by using the escalator (for what may or may not be a visible reason to choose the escalator). At the very least it increases awareness of those healthy choices.
Still curious what the speech bubble says though..
if obesity is reaching a pandemic level, it is obviously no longer treatable with "why don't you walk up the stairs for once, fatso?". if a majority of people are obese it is no longer a question of lifestyle choices.
Then we likely disagree on the cause of the obesity pandemic. In my view, obesity is a choice moderated by increasingly inactive lifestyles, high volumes of low quality food, and genetics (obviously not a choice).
Add in contributing factors of affordability, general apathy towards nutrition, ready availability of food, grabbing food for all occasions (stress/joy/boredom), and corporations (esp. major corporations; food engineering for addictiveness and flavour, rampant marketing, and low quality offerings to bolster profits and scale).
So in my view, still largely long-term lifestyle choices, with corporate influence definitely playing a part.
But you seem to think differently, what do you believe I'm not seeing?
you list it all, but i think the things you class as "contributing factors" are more significant, because it would explain the numbers better. i just think that it's statistically improbable that that many people would choose sedentary life. it doesn't match with my perception of my surroundings.
a parallel: if some people have better teeth then average, it is probably because they care about their teeth. but if the majority of a community has better teeth than the rest of the country, there's probably something in the water.
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Exactly. Go to a grocery store and load up on unhealthy shit, then go back to the same store and load up on healthy shit. The price difference is insane, especially when considering shelf life.
I buy frozen vegetables mostly, but I could feed my family a whole lot cheaper on cheap TV dinners.
Now we have (at least in my part of the US) dollar generals popping up in food deserts with the lowest quality shit on the planet. In the neighborhood I grew up in, most people didn’t have cars and the nearest grocery store was 30 miles away. That community is surviving on dollar general groceries now. When I was a kid we bought brown beans and white rice in bulk and lived mostly on that. We drank powdered milk.
When my brother and I refused to eat beans and rice, my mom would color it with food coloring to get us excited. “Who wants BLUE RICE AND BEANS?!” “WE DO! WE DO!”
If we had grown up in the world today, we’d probably be struggling with obesity.
"Go to a grocery store and load up on unhealthy shit, then go back to the same store and load up on healthy shit. The price difference is insane, especially when considering shelf life."
This intrigues me, and definitely isn't my experience. Do the same thing in my country and you come out with a comparable amount of food, perhaps influencing the choice element I describe above.
One commentary I've come across about American food is that the shitty stuff is intentionally priced so cheaply as to make the good stuff seem insanely priced. My experience above suggests that this might have a grain of truth to it. If willing to share, how do you feel about this commentary (i.e., what do you think of it)?
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Yeah, fuck me for using a cane, I'm such a big fat fatty and want to be fat.
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I go on the escalator but walk because I'm only half lazy and also want to go fast
Walking fast on the moving sidewalks makes me feel like Captain America.
Hmm, would running make you feel like the Flash? Or is that just not in the cards?
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I love it 🤣