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‘The American people did not vote for whatever the hell this is,’ warns House Democrat (www.commondreams.org)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Summary

The House GOP's new rules package aims to weaken minority party influence while advancing a pro-corporate agenda.

Key provisions include shielding the House speaker from bipartisan accountability and fast-tracking 12 GOP bills without allowing amendments, including measures to sanction the International Criminal Court (ICC) and protect fracking.

Democrats, led by Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), criticized the package for ignoring economic and social issues like inflation and housing while prioritizing tax cuts for billionaires.

Republicans plan to offset these costs by slashing social programs, sparking warnings of further congressional dysfunction.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago (29 children)

A whole lotta dipshits voted for lower egg prices, or stayed home, voted their useless protest vote or outright voted for donvict, because "genocide joe" or whatever.

But we are all going to get this instead, I guess. It's not like many normal Americans were not warning them...Gaza and egg prices will be unaffected by donvict, maybe made worse by his fumbling idiocracy.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Yes they did.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Oh yes, they did. They voted for propaganda. Everything else is gravy.

[–] [email protected] 191 points 5 months ago (10 children)

"The American people did not vote for whatever the hell this is,"

Yeah, actually, they did. Millions of Democrat voters stayed home. Every single state shifted right.

McGovern added, "and you better believe that Democrats will not let Republicans turn the House of Representatives into a rubber stamp for their extremist policies."

You're in the minority party. Republicans have control of all 3 branches of government, and many state governments shifted right.

Simply put, what the fuck are you going to do about it? Democrats have exactly zero power outside of sitting back and watching.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The republicans have held the minority many times and obstructed the fuck out of our government. If Dems really care they can do a lot to prevent shit in congress.

We will see how much they actually care in the next 2 years

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Democrats have exactly zero power outside of sitting back and watching.

Jokes on the Republicans-- Democrats like to watch [their party get effed]. So republicans are giving the democratic leadership exactly what it wants. We win again.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Democrats have exactly zero power outside of sitting back and watching.

Good news! That's what they'd be doing if they had power too!

We need a DNC chair that's not afraid to normalize primaries against Dem incumbents.

Otherwise someone in Pelosi's district for example has no say in their representative, a bad incumbent would just deptess turnout until they die in office or a Republican flips the seat.

When an incumbent is defended no matter what and has millions in dirty money from the last general it's not a fair primary.

And for Dem voters, active primaries turn into increased general turnout because people are invested in the process.

The issue is the DNC has been run by people who put "party loyalty" above all else, which sounds OK until you realize the loyalty isn't to voters, it's to donors.

"Blue no matter who" doesn't work on Dem voters when they didn't have any say in the candidate. It's not uniting, it's blindly following. And Republicans will always be better at that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

DNC needs to change how their primaries are run.

Politics aside, no way some outsider like Trump would ever win a DNC primary because of how they run them vs the RNC. I think the Dems ignore voter wishes then surprise Pikachu face when the milquetoast establishment candidates don't get people fired up to vote.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not every single state, Washington went more left.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I think you meant to reply to the person who said:

Every single state shifted right.

Unless this is one of those things where if anything wasn't explicitly refuted in a reply people act like you agree with it.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Democrats have exactly zero power outside of sitting back and watching.

And yet they'll still somehow get blamed for everything that's coming.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

No shortage of people that just stupidly (or with an agenda) blame dems for the shitty republicans. People on lemmy saying Reagan was Carter’s fault, for example.

That’s how abusers think. “Look what you made me do.” Look how you made me stay home and not vote so now we have trump.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

That’s how abusers think. “Look what you made me do.” Look how you made me stay home and not vote so now we have trump.

Bingo. So many donvict supporters pulled this shit when donvict "won" in 2016 - "Obama and Hollywood made me do this. You deserve tRump." And yes, that is totally abuser type of talk.

It is expected that the demons on the right - like Tucker Carlson [1] - will use this kind of talk, but what is so damned infuriating is when the Enlightened Centrists (TM) and the "liberal media" say it as well.

[1] Tucker was saying that at some point, he may have to turn to fascism because of what the left Made Him Do, because "too woke" or something.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (6 children)

People on lemmy saying Reagan was Carter’s fault, for example.

More recent example: People on Lemmy continuing to blame the return of Trump on Biden and Harris. Harris wasn't the perfect candidate, so of course the only reasonable thing to do was stay home and let Trump return to power. I mean, Liz Cheney showed up on stage to support her that one time. What else were voters supposed to do? This was all Harris's fault, dammit!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's not their fault in the sense that Harris was a bad candidate or Biden was a bad president compared to his peers. They were both fine but they largely stuck to early 2000s platforms (or at least could not overcome that perception) and people clearly want something different. Many can tell that the trajectory of the past isn't going to work out for them. Trump isn't a good response to that but Democrats are perceived to be categorically opposed to acknowledging the sentiment and adjusting course. It's not exactly rational but it is understandable that people in a bad spot aren't particularly concerned about things getting worse because from their perspective things are already pretty bad.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And they'll continue shifting right, blocking a meaningful progressive agenda, and promote neoliberal "nothing will fundamentally change" policy until they are completely consumed/eliminated by the fascist plutocracy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Doesn't matter now they are in power. That's all they ever wanted.

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