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Google confirms Gmail is “here to stay” amid speculation over plans to scrap the email service::Claims that Google plans to sunset Gmail were a hoax, so there's no need to panic

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Chaotic me wishes they would kill Gmail. The next handful of cool things would surface from the ashes and I could finally cut ties with big G.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Next week: "Google scrapping gmail."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I doubt it. It's free data, they ain't getting rid of that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not free though. Running an email service is not cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Trust me they make way more money by running the service then it costs to run especially considering that everything is now in house. They own their own servers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's absolutely not free like you said though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

It's free for you. I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

exactly my thought.

"They are saying its here to stay, which means people should get their data off it asap"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Google almost killed Gmail for me - I'm on a deprecated google apps free family plan they tried to kill recently. It was going to cost over a hundred dollars a month to move everyone on my personal family domain to a professional plan to keep it, and at the last minute they retreated and kept it free.

But for me that was a warning shot I can't ignore. Way back I ran a Microsoft Exchange server for the family, before that postfix with squirrelmail. But I'm tired of all the tech support that came with it, so some kind of permanent, relatively spam free email option that we call rely on for decades would be welcome.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

ProtonMail has a family plan, and they promise to encrypt your emails.

PurelyMail is nice and super cheap, the only downside is that it's run by a single guy.

Zoho is like 10 dollars per year per user, even though it's geared towards companies and not families.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Proton is way too overpriced for older accounts with a lot of stuff accumulated and encryption is a gimmick unless you're only communicating with other Proton users. All companies encrypt email at rest.

I'm currently using and can definitely recommend purely mail. Obviously backup, but so far the service has been excellent. It's the only fairly priced service out there for personal hosting that supports custom domains.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Recently moved to protonmail. The setup was fairly easy, with proton copying all the mails over and setting up forwarding from gmail. I've started to gradually change accounts over. Decided to subscribe as well, even though could manage without.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you buy a custom domain then you won't have to worry in the future, you will be able to switch mail provider without changing your email on any service you use

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a good point. I've considered it before, but always struggle with coming up with a domain name. Also, with respect to tracking a personal domain means that anyone can check the registrar information to find full name, address etc?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Many registrars let you hide your personal data from public whois.

In the past I used to suggest Gandi as a good service, but they've been recently bought by a horrible company and they jacked up their prices.

Now I suggest Porkbun! I'm very happy with their service.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Alright, will consider it, thanks for the recommendation!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I'm finishing up moving all my accounts to Proton. I don't trust them at all anymore. Late stage capitalism at its finest.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I fully expect GMail to be enshittified in the future.

"GMail through gmail.com and GMail App: Always Free"

"GMail Pro (IMAP/POP/Forwarding): Only $3.99 / mo"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I couldn't stand pop3 25 years ago, I can't believe it's still around

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Don’t give them ideas

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

The only reason I'm locked into Google is Gmail. If that goes away, I'll purge everything Google from my life in a heartbeat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's here to stay....for only $3.99 per month! *

*cost for monthly subscription only. Excludes fees for sending and receiving messages. Chat and others services extra.


Anyone want to take a bet, this is where we will be in 5 years?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Nah, they want to keep the data pipe wide open. Everything that can get you to voluntarily put your data into their service they'll leave as free as air.

Plus, Gmail has the added bonus of being like a supermarket loyalty card: it gets their name into your browser toolbar and daily routine for bonus psychological impact.

I doubt they'll give any of that up for a paltry $3.99.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gmail is untouchable. That more than any other product has kept me tethered to Google since 2004. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if some greedy, future regime at Google botches it up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I already moved over to Proton in anticipation of Google charging for Gmail. It's untouchable as far as longevity, but it's going to be majorly enshittifiedto the point that leaving it will be more desirable than staying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I am in the process of moving to Proton now. It's way easier than I though it was going to be!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

May I ask what steps you followed to make the transition smooth? I've been meaning to use proton + simplelogin, but I'm concerned it'll quickly become a time sink to transition from one service to the other.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

1: Register a new Proton account

2: Set up email forwarding from Gmail to Proton

3: Add a filter that labels all Mail incoming to Gmail with a Gmail label.

4: Whenever you feel like it, go to some of your Gmail labeled mail and change the registered mail to Proton etc.

I'd still recommend buying your own domain though, it took me less than 15 mins switching completely from Skiff to Proton, and I didn't have to reregister anything. Only when you have a costum domain you're truly serviceprovider-independent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I second the custom domain part.

It's easy to setup and it doesn't lock you to any single provider, in case you want to change in the future

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

They need it for AI training I guess

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