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YSK that apart from not having a car and voting, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat. (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Red meat has a huge carbon footprint because cattle requires a large amount of land and water.

https://sph.tulane.edu/climate-and-food-environmental-impact-beef-consumption

Demand for steaks and burgers is the primary driver of Deforestation:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-beef-industry-fueling-amazon-rainforest-destruction-deforestation/

https://e360.yale.edu/features/marcel-gomes-interview

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2023-06-02/almost-a-billion-trees-felled-to-feed-appetite-for-brazilian-beef

If you don't have a car and rarely eat red meat, you are doing GREAT 🙌🙌 🙌

Sure, you can drink tap water instead of plastic water. You can switch to Tea. You can travel by train. You can use Linux instead of Windows AI's crap. Those are great ideas. But, don't drive yourself crazy. If you are only an ordinary citizen, remember that perfect is the enemy of good.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

No shade on people trying to make sustainable choices, but if the solution to the climate crisis is us trusting everyone to "get with the program" and pick the right choice; while unsustainable alternatives sit right there beside them at lower prices, then we are truly doomed.

What the companies behind these foods and products don't want to talk about is that to get anywhere we have to target them. It shouldn't be a controversial standpoint that: (i) all products need to cover their true full environmental and sustainability costs, with the money going back into investments into the environment counteracting the negative impacts; (ii) we need to regulate, regulate, and regulate how companies are allowed to interact with the environment and society, and these limits must apply world-wide. There needs to be careful follow-up on that these rules are followed: with consequences for individuals that take the decisions to break them AND "death sentences" (i.e. complete disbandment) for whole companies that repeatedly oversteps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eating meat also means lots of animals have to suffer just for yout pleasure. I know people get triggert real fast if you mention how bad eating meat really is. It's like a drug for some people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Meat is a key food group on which majority of the world relies on live off.

Flying on the other hand is 100% discretionary but it seems people who whine about eating meat have zero problem going on vacations.

When hypocrisy is called out, they will have a melt down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lol this person is obsessed with bringing up this point.

“Shit, the meat industry is all types of fucked up. Maybe we should cut down.”

“Have you ever been on a plane though? If so, everything you just said cancels out. All your points are moot. All your effort is for nothing. I am very intelligent.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Yes king

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Can we just not do both? Thanks.

Also, alternatives to flying include cars ($$$ + muuuch slower + only slightly less bad) and public transit (requires collective buy-in and can't happen overnight).

Most people can just drop meat on a whim, but I can't just magic a US High-Speed Rail network into existence. I'll continue to support the CA HSR with my vote and my tax dollars, and continue to take my rare vacations to locations within driving distance, but these aren't really equivalent changes.

There is a much more robust set of existing alternatives to meat than there is to flying, at least in the US.

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