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Vice is basically dead — Thousands of stories written over the past two decades could soon be deleted without any warning::CEO Bruce Dixon told staffers that Vice Media will lay off hundreds of employees and stop publishing stories on the site.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

I remember when they were a bunch of dicks. But, yeah, there was some really good journalism that got done - somehow - amongst all that.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240111063111/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/06/inside-vice-media-shane-smith.html

[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Journalism has become an absolute dumpster fire for almost anyone trying to do actual journalism. No wonder corporations are running roughshod over us all, the industry is hostile to anyone not willing to be some sort of shill.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (6 children)

And people will bitch and moan about a paywall.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It's a double edged sword. Quality information should be accessible to everyone. We ensure that for kids through public school systems, but for adults you need to pay for it yourself. Which is a huge problems since that is the same demographic as "voters".

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (15 children)

The problem with paywalled isn't an unwillingness to pay for quality, its being attacked with a subscription when we don't want to be locked into a single source. Today I want a good article on popular particle physics, tomorrow I want to know whats going on with education in Nigeria. Let me make a quick crypto micropayment with no fuss and I'll read your article, try to make me a lifelong subscriber and get fucked.

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[–] [email protected] 176 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Before this particular Enshittification some of the people from Vice formed their own journalist led site. Including the editor from Motherboard.

https://www.404media.co/

[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago

I’ve been hugely impressed with their work thus far. They hit the ground sprinting and haven’t let off the gas

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But Dixon wrote, rather cryptically, that remaining employees will put “more emphasis on our social channels as we accelerate our discussion with partners to take our content to where it will be viewed most broadly.”

In other words, the in depth reporting and niche shows aren't making enough money, so we're going to dump all that shit and jump on the reality TV bandwagon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

they'll just fire everyone and licence their stuff for AI training

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

That's sad. They did some really good things over the years.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Vice did a lot of very good, and generally in-moderate-depth reporting over the years. Hope an overabundance of people scrape that shit while we still have an opportunity. Once its hosted somewhere safe, you could probably even dump access to it somewhere like ... the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Surely most of it is already on the Internet archive?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Very likely. Those are not secure in the long-run either though, hence the need for an overabundance. No single online service should be genuinely fully trusted. You need a lot of duplication for any kind of real future-proofing.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't know much about the internet archive's inner workings. But rather recently a huge collection of old 70s-00s tokusatsu shows and movies got deleted along with the uploader. Some remain on piracy sites, but a lot probably live now on some old torrents. We really need an archive of the internet archive.

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