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One small problem:
Billionaires are not closed in together in a poorly secured room, thus you will need a lot more effort to just shoot down one of them.
Just arrange a dick measuring contest, and the largest dicks with the smallest wieners will come together. (pun not intended)
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Starting a psyop on 4chan for making edgy school shooter wannabes start aiming at billionaires instead.
"You see anon, it's not that girls don't like you or that your class has 1 non-white person in cornbread America, it's that billionaires are leeches in society, and the cops they own would stop you. Don't fire at classmates, fire at the upper class."
I tried to teach socialism for terminally 4chan people, it's hard, and can be immediately undone by /pol/, some other nazi shit, etc.
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These people believe they are just one crypto rug pull away from being part of the 1%
This argument won't work on them.
For good measure point out that people migrating into the country are often because the 1% are offering them otherwise high paying jobs at below minimum wage, but thanks to the exchange rate that's like a million dollars an hour back in their home country.
Don't make it obvious that you're on the Left or they'll ignore you on principle. Make it sound like you're "one of them"
Also, only about 28,000 hundred-million-plus-inaires on Earth.
For perspective, significantly more Palestinians have already been casually genocided by our bestie trade partner in that current conflict.
The blight upon our civilization of billions is not that large.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/number-of-people-with-100-million-has-doubled-since-2003.html
I'm not even suggesting they be adjusted, because I'm not a sociopath like they are. Use an economic guillotine, confiscate their exploitation gotten hoards for the commons(yes nationalize essential industries like utilities and Healthcare so they're owned by society), reshape the economy to stop rewarding speculative gambling with exploitation gotten chips over honest labor and vocations like teachers that keep civilization running, obviously institute a maximum wealth cap as other people live in this society going forward to prevent recurrance, bring their ego scores to zero for their murderous greed, let them keep $20 and give each of them a set of literal, cheap bootstraps, and let them get a real job.
Bar them from forming any kind of corporate entities or investing in anything other than a standard savings account for life, just as people convicted of computer crimes are sometimes barred from operating computers as they've proven they're a danger to others with them.
I'd be shocked if half of them didn't take themselves out of the equation suddenly being subject to the same reality as their current livestock.
So... You want socialism?
I do, and I'm tired of pretending I don't.
I never didn't when I reached the age of reason and saw the social ~~tolerance~~ ~~celebration~~ worship of unchecked avarice as the core rot in our civilization for what it is.
Im glad so many are finally overcoming their capitalist "greed is rational and your lessers have to lose for you to win" programming, even at this late hour as the capitalists burn the very world under our feet... and your grandmother who needs a hip replacement or chemotherapy alive... for another nickel on their sociopath hoards.
Do we want a society... And all the benefits that being an actual society with a functioning social contract entails? Or do we want to continue to be a bunch of ~~temporarily embarrassed millionaires~~ pathetic mark suckers at each other's throats tearing eachother down over scraps and false promises (hard work will be rewarded! Consumption will make you feel better! The odds are ever in your favor!) so we never look up at our owners?
If I had less morals or more energy, I'd give you a hundred upvotes.
social worship of unchecked avarice
I love this phrase. It covers a lot in so few words.
Unfortunate that it describes the actual world rather than some dystopian YA novel.
Thank you sincerely!
When one of your hobbies becomes finding new and interesting ways to make the same points at clouds and brick walls on the internet, as mine has, you come to find efficiency in eloquence.
It helps me to at least feel like I'm holding onto my sanity in insane times.
You are sincerely welcome! I thought that whole comment of yours distilled a lot of our/my frustrations down to a few hard-hitting sentences.
I mean, I could have just as easily used this one:
capitalist "greed is rational and your lessers have to lose for you to win" programming
I think every other sentence you write could be used as an answer on Jeopardy and the question would always be “How is so much so wrong with the world? It doesn’t have to be this way!”
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There are 1050 estimated billionaires in the US. In 2024 we've had 38 school shooting related deaths.
So a bit more than 2 months...
He is not talking about school related deaths but about deaths of school children, so everyone who is still a school age.
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29 years, assuming we maintain 2024 school shooting levels. I propose that we just skip the schoolchildren shootings altogether, and just skip straight to French Revolution rates of aristocrat deaths. They unalived over 14,000 aristocrats over just a two year period.
Given demographics in the US today, those are rookie numbers. I think we could really show history how it ought to be done and bump that up to some really fast math.
The real unfortunate downside though was that 70% of the casualties during the reign of terror was worker/peasant class. Getting at those rich people meant they had to go through 700,000 human shields that the wealthy put in front of themselves. I figure our current wealthy elite wouldn't be reached until a far higher number of Americans perished.
There's a lot of fucking bootlicker assholes out there still.
Modern aristocrats are also much more mobile than their ancien regime counterparts.
On a completely unrelated note, I wonder how far the FOSSCAD community has come with developing surface to air missiles.
This is ignoring inheritance!
We'd have have to use drugs or something first to get them to sign over their wealth. Probably film it, make sure no one thinks it was under duress. The whole process could take months to make sure it looks legit. CIA level brainwashing maybe? I donno, just spitballing. Then just make sure they can't backtrack on everything by finishing the job.
Not necessary. After the first round of billionaires has been dispatched, their nepo babies will see the writing on the wall and sign it over quite willingly without any kind of coercion.
This, make them afraid of having too much at once. It's what people recieving disability payments are already used to. (You actually get cut off and removed from healthcare providers if you're disabled and have 2000 in savings, and your spouse's income counts so you basically can't get married.
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Let him cook
That would involve people actually doing something rather than waiting for someone else.
And even then you guys would fall into conspiracy theories because you can't believe someone actually did something.
Everyone is doing something. Working, going to school, living their lives. Even people who have no job, who walk the streets, are doing something: surviving.
Most people’s survival instincts prevent them from taking drastic measures like this, even when things are really bad. Think of how many people who had every incentive to take a shot at Hitler but did not, despite all the horrors of the Nazi regime.
It's a prisoner's dilemma. Of fucking course we should revolt and save the world. Organizing that is not easy, especially when it makes you a target.
And this is the heart of our predicament - the ones in control understand this. If they keep our misery at a low simmer they get to extract everything from us, slowly, we won't revolt. I worry that our only hope may be that they miscalculate and the pot boils over. I really don't want that, but I'm having a harder and harder time imagining real improvements anymore.
It's the people who think making money is good and moral, even when you have to screw others over to get it, who are the problem.
Completely agree.
Homelessness is up 20% over the last 2 years. The pot is already boiling over, I'm not sure what more you think most people have left to lose.
I guess we'll see won't we? I predict we've got a bit further to go before enough people are miserable enough. It's a numbers game and I don't think we're there yet.
President musk might push it over I reckon. This whole visa debacle is a big fuck you. I don't think it will be his last overreach