Happy with how PieFed deals with it. Lemmy often feels like a ghost town with posts having zero comments. PieFed combining them takes most of that away, and I guess it reduces any incentive to 'pinch' other people's posts?
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At least it matters much less, as all comments are going to be displayed anyway
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One question for @[email protected]
I've been reposting content from [email protected] and [email protected] to [email protected] when that movement was still very active.
There was even a [email protected] post about it: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39614799
My rationale was that
- due to the current way Lemmy handles crossposts (compared to Piefed), comments of crossposts are not consolidated, so people will only see the comments from one posts, which means that discussions should happen on one single community to be seen by everyone
- there were no rules or moderation policies differences between the three communities
Wanting to consolidate similar communities is a regular topic here, with the last attempt from 2 days ago: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/47122168
But sometimes some posters just want to stick to their home instance rather than consolidate.
I've been in a similar situation for [email protected] and [email protected], as well as [email protected] and [email protected] . There was a regular poster who would only post to the LW versions, even though I reached out several times to them, offering them mod positions on the other communities.
They now stopped posting, so the two non-LW communities are now more active than the LW versions, but that's a bit unfortunate as it would have been better to have them continue posting on .
In those cases, should content crossposting stop?
We usually tell people "if you don't like a community, make your own and convince people it is better". Having more content usually makes a community better. And also, in a lot of cases, people just repost content from Reddit anyway.
Open for comments and discussions.
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I could not agree more. @[email protected] could maybe use a bit of self-reflection in that regard.
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This is often used to attack or force migrate conversations from a instance someone doesn't like to another instance they do like. It's offensive by its very nature.
I have to say I haven't come across this issue too often as I basically never browse /All. But I definitely have noticed this with cm0002's personal crusade against .ml pissing off more than one poster in communities I follow.
yeah, that is exactly who is causing the pain. I was blissfully ignorant of it, until someone explained their grevience and I labeled them in voyager as a jacker, and now I see how duplicative and bad for lemmy they make everybody's experience.
So, are we all just supposed to accept the .ml instance bans? https://feddit.nl/post/16246531
I'm not the biggest fan of the way @[email protected] handles this, but at the same time, the usual recommendation for people unhappy with the way a community was managed was to make their own.
Also, the "authorship" issue is brought up a few times in this threads, but don't @[email protected] posts always credit the original author?
Examples:
After a post author has already been made aware of an alternative community and has asked cm0002 multiple times to stop reposting their original content there, continuing to do so anyway is extremely rude. Yes, the internet is free, the content is out there and there is nothing stopping cm0002 from continuing to repost it. But there is also nothing stopping me from thinking he's a fucking asshole whose efforts create more hatred and internal division on this platform than it unites us.
Some of the communities he wages war against have zero political connections (such as [email protected]) and have never once even approached a moment of controversy with a mod or admin.
But he is on a mission from God as a hero of the people in his just crusade against the evils of the internet or whatever, so in his own words it "must be done".
I see where you come from, but here's another perspective: what if someone wants to block .ml because of the instance bans, or because one of the admin is transphobic (https://lemmy.world/post/18236068)
That person can't access .ml communities anymore. There are a few alternatives around ([email protected] for [email protected], [email protected] for [email protected] etc.).
I agree that @[email protected] should probably stop crossposting posts from people who explicitly asked them to stop, but on the other hand most of the people probably don't mind (example of me asking someone who thought that nodoby needs permission to post a link somewhere else: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45767421/19161995)
@[email protected], maybe just crosspost content from https://old.reddit.com/r/crows/ rather that [email protected]
If you want to block ml then you made a choice to also give up it's content.
The ml posters are aware of other instances.
Everyone is free to use a instance that federates how they like. If people choose an exclusionary instance then they can't complain they are missing posts from something excluded.
I absofuckinglutely mind seeing redundant content in my feed. It makes Lemmy feel empty
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Well, the good news is that at least some of those that sort by new/all know that the newest version of a repost is the newest, and that the last one is the earliest.
The issue you're raising is one I've had conversations about in meat space.
The problem with that is that not everyone who knows about it pays attention to it, or bothers to report things since it would require scrolling back
Personally I rarely report because I have no way of knowing if a link came independently or via repost. It's easy to spot when it's something like a meme or similarly identifiable, but even then it may not be intentionally douchey, just thoughtless. So reporting isn't necessarily a primary option.
I don't think there's an easy solution to the problem tbh.
If the admins of a instance have a policy of no Lemmy on Lemmy mugging that's enough. I can provide a list of frequent jackers from their instance.
The single most prolific jacker is on lemmy.world
They reupload the same photo or url over and over, so it's trivial to identify.
I scrolled ALL and think I saw one of the offenders.
It's especially stupid since karma isn't a thing on Lemmy. Karma was fake on reddit, but people love a good mental feedback mechanism. Here, though, you're just being a dick if you steal content.
I haven't seen this, so can't speak on it. What's the difference between someone reposting the same article/crossposting and content jacking?
Let's say you make a niche post about a programming feature
2-6 hours later someone copies your post exactly but doesn't cross post. Now people browsing by New see the copy first and if they do see the original it feels redundant/ spammy.
If people do talk about this niche thing it's likely they won't be talking in the same place.
You as the poster won't see the engagement with your content, you won't see comments, and you may be less incentivized to post again
thanks, that explains why some of my posts are also copied to other instances 🤔
Hello,
I dm'd you a few days ago about [email protected] and asking whether there any reason to not use [email protected]
The second one is quite more active: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=privacy&order=active_month
There is a extremely good reason not to use a privacy community that forbids talking about cryptography.
We have had this discussion many times. Pretending it doesn't matter is just being obtuse at this point.
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If the cross post feature is used, does it merge comments as well?
It does on Piefed
https://piefed.zip/post/100161
All comments from 5 crossposts in a single view
A few options
- https://piefed.social/ - flagship instance
- https://piefed.zip/ - lemmy.zip team
- https://piefed.ca/ - lemmy.ca team
- https://feddit.online/
That's cool, but if it's only piefed I can see the same conversations being repeated. Maybe it'll come to Lemmy. Or is Lemmy old hat now and we should all move to piefed?
The Lemmy devs recently stated that this is a client problem, and that they don't plan to change that
In lemmy-ui we’ve chosen to link the posts at the top rather than combine comment threads.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46984024/19528869
IMO it's a shame, because having the consolidated view is just much better to initiate conversations, but at least Piefed offers that options.
Or is Lemmy old hat now and we should all move to piefed?
A few instances popped recently, so there's definitely some traction towards that. Also the 1.0 version was just announced on [email protected] .
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Thanks for explaining. If someone is stealing posts, then it's up to the moderators and/or admins to deal with that.
But as I said, there's a lot of people on Lemmy that think theft is okay. Hence sanctioning bots to steal content from elsewhere on the net.
But as I said, there’s a lot of people on Lemmy that think theft is okay.
Theft happening to others, maybe. Try stealing from them ;)
then it’s up to the moderators and/or admins to deal with that.
That being said, I agree this is the moderator's job to deal with it but keep in mind that:
- Mods are benevolent and there aren't that many to begin with.
- One may still need to report the issue for the mod to become aware of it.
When it's the mod doing it?
One may still need to report the issue for the mod to become aware of it.
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At least with the bot, it's clear that this is one way communication, and usually the bots tell you where it's coming from.
But just a person copying everything, so you think they're the original creator, but they're not. Which means if you respond to that post, they're not going to respond, they don't care. They're just stealing. They're trying to move everybody to their new community
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If it absolutely must be copied then the cross post mechanism should be used.
We literally have reposting bots for hackernews, reddit, Twitter, etc. It's nearly infinite content out there.
Hurting Lemmy users makes it harder to grow the platform
Wait, so what you're complaining about is something other than crossposts? 'Cause to me, this thread sounded like you were just bitching about crossposts.
Edit: you should copy your explanation here into your initial post itself so that we all understand what you were actually talking about.
Agreed, I wasn't sure what Jet was talking about.
We literally have reposting bots for hackernews, reddit, Twitter, etc. It's nearly infinite content out there.
Theft is theft. It's all shit and should be frowned upon.
Yep. It's why I've blocked most repost bots. It's just a barren thread with content from elsewhere that might even not exist on the original platform anymore
Broadly I agree, I don't want to come to Lemmy to just have an RSS reader. I want to have conversations.
I think every post should be by a human, to have a conversation about something.
I want to have conversations.
Piefed allows for better conversations thanks to the consolidated comments view
https://piefed.zip/post/100161
All comments from 5 crossposts in a single view
A few options
- https://piefed.social/ - flagship instance
- https://piefed.zip/ - lemmy.zip team
- https://piefed.ca/ - lemmy.ca team
- https://feddit.online/