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I'm someone with relatively small hands, plus I want my phone to be on the smaller side since I prefer to use my tablet/computer/tv to watch content. But this trend where many manufacturers tend to keep futures away from smaller phones to drive people to bigger phones is driving me crazy and really makes it hard for me to buy a new phone. I can understand not having everything like maybe a periscope lens or something else that is cost etc. but not to this level. Like take Samsung for example: S24 lacks uwb, 45w, a 1440p display, has a lower amount of ram and storage. Why? Why can't the s24 have faster charging or uwb? Why is there no 512 version and why does it have to start with 128gb storage? Is it not a flagship? It costs 949€ in my place! Why do I have to give 200€ more to get the s24+ just to get these simple features? I don't want a bigger phone! Google does the same! No uwb, no thermometer sensor, no telephoto lens. And don't get me started with all the software features google is keeping for the 8 pro like they don't have the same processor. Why? Are they cheap? No they are not. I'm just really annoyed by this cause I really don't want such a big phone.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Your best bets would probably be a zenfone or a 7a right now, but I agree as a small-handed person there is a serious lack of full-feature experiences in a small form factor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Zenfone gets only 2 years of updates and 7a doesn't officially come to my country :(

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It can't have faster charging because it lacks the space to dissipate the thermal energy to stop it from catching on fire. If it did support 45W on paper, it would still charge slower to prevent thermal runaway. The "Ultra" models have thermal cooling systems that rival laptop computers just short of active cooling fans.

It can't have UWB because it's too small for the 30,000 antennae they have to jam in the phone. 4x for cellular, then GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, Wireless charging, NFC, and on and on.

These phones, especially Samsung, jam so much technology in such a small package. We're brushing up against the laws of physics.

And lets not even talk about then also expecting good cellular reception when on your lower cellular bands. Take 700MHz for example, an ideal 1/2 wavelength antenna would have to be 21cm/8.2in tall, so they have to use fractional wavelengths that further degrade performance potential, again, due to physics. (While still also supporting the fractional wavelengths of 30 other bands.) The plus and ultra models at least have space to approach more usable antennae for better reception. The tiny phones (and watches) don't really have a chance.

Now, Google's software feature nonsense, and the way handset manufacturers manipulate price for a few cents worth of storage increase are both downright criminal. However, the telephoto lens thing again goes back to space and reality. Telephoto cameras take up a ton of space. Look at a teardown of the S22 Ultra to see how big the camera modules are.

That's actually an annoying point I recently observed though. The S24 ultra has a lower resolution 10x camera than either the S22 Ultra or S23 Ultra. I think they're trying to make up the difference with "AI" instead of real sensor/glass. Maybe it'll get rid of the camera rattle though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Yeah it's actually infuriating to read some of these threads. Some of the small phone users expect Oppo Find X7 Ultra cameras with a 5000 mAh battery and headphone jack in an iPhone 5S form factor and the only argument they make is the phone can be thicker. Thickness is only one dimension, all these components need space in other dimensions too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Agree, even though I very much prefer big phones (wouldn't mind 7 inch screens) I still hate the artifical kneecapping of smaller devices. Its all just a trick to sucker people into spending more money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I don't mind the size, as mine often doubles as the pocket computer that it is. I just wish they'd stop wasting so much time and money with cameras. If I wanted pro pictures, I'd carry an actual camera with me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Man made one of the pioneering smartwatches before anyone else. My pebble still had better battery life than my current feature bloated smart watch. He knows what he's talking about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think I have normal hands for a 6ft male but I'm really enjoying the z flip 5. Small enough to fit in shirt pockets comfortably

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I just wish it was a bit wider, like 21:9

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I have big hands and I still can't stand these 6"+ phones. They don't fit in a pocket worth a shit and they're fragile as hell.

I had a Samsung S4 Mini, it was my favorite phone. Fit in a shirt pocket, I kicked that thing down ladders and on gravel, never broke the screen. Everything else bigger has had a broken screen within a year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

My hands aren't particularly small either and I hate big phones. I like to use my phone with one hand most of the time so I need a small phone to hold it comfortably and to reach around the touch screen.

I've noticed even few millimeters of difference in width has great impact on how comfortable the phone is to use. Gesture navigation also helps and I think it was created out of necessity for bigger phones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Kicking a phone down a ladder isn't exactly the intended use case though, so maybe it's just your fault that your phone screen keeps getting broken. I've had large phones for years, and haven't broken a single screen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I have a V30 which has a fine size but I wish I didn't have to go bigger

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I agree. That's one of the reasons I have a Sony Xperia 10. It's has a 6" screen and is narrower than other phones making it very easy to hold and pocket.

Sadly the OEM's will tell you that when given the choice, customers always go for the bigger screen because they think they are getting more. Which is why we have this situation.

Asus have the ZenFone which is smaller but even they are making a bigger 6.7" version next.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hope at least they will release 2 phones

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hope so but I suspect it will only be the bigger one. I think they took a chance on the 6" but it didn't sell as well as hoped so I think they are changing strategy.

My reasoning is that the ZenFone 10 did not upgrade much compared to ZenFone 9 which means they didn't sell enough to justify spending a lot on the 10. If it sold well they would have added more features.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it didn't sell well because they only give 2 years of upgrades. It's way too few for a phone that expensive

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I was considering an ASUS when I was looking for a new phone, but it quickly fell off my list due to just that, can't justify buying a phone that gets less than 4 years of updates when OEMs are slowly rolling out 7 year support window. Ended up getting OnePlus12, and I am very happy with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I miss my Droid Mini so much.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sad that phones don't fit my hands anymore, but I know it's my own fault for not growing my hands at the expected rate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah, grow some hands already! Xd

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the auto industry insisting everyone wants an SUV or monster truck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

In the US many people do. Not so much outside of it. Personally I've wanted a truck ever since I was a kid and saw one plowing snow from our parking lot. Now I have one and I LOVE it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

We don't? Xd

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