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Summary

Elon Musk faced backlash from his followers on X after advocating for importing “super talented engineers” to address a shortage in the U.S. tech industry.

Musk likened hiring top foreign talent to building a championship sports team and argues that there is a shortage of talented and motivated American engineers.

Critics argued there’s sufficient U.S. talent being overlooked or underpaid, with some pointing to widespread tech layoffs.

Musk dismissed claims of low wages or training gaps, maintaining a need for exceptional engineering talent to advance innovation.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 days ago

Right-Wing bootlickers continue to learn they aren't in the in-crowd they desperately seek to join.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Is there a shortage?

Or are you only looking at Bay Area hires because I see a great number of good and bad engineers in Midwest and eastern parts of the USA.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I seriously doubt there is a shortage anywhere in the U.S.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Muskrat wants cheap engineers that will work like China's 9-9-6.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (4 children)

He's so fucking stupid. It's exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago

Well, I'm not sure I'd call it stupid, exactly. He wants indentured servants, cheap. It's about accruing more power and wealth to himself.

Now, our government should be set up to STOP unregulated capitalism like this, but at this point, it's been captured by the capitalists, and they are basically there to give a huge assist to capitalists instead.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

Globalism for me but not for thee

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Do I really need to login just to view a comment?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Is there a Nitter for Bluesky yet? [googles]

https://bskyviewer.github.io/

Not sure which comment you wanted...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

why, would you rather have a less shitty internet?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

For that comment, yes. It appears that the author has limited it to signed-in users only. This is one way to ensure that the Bluesky moderation tools are applied to everyone who might view / screenshot / interact with the post in question.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is one way to ensure that the Bluesky moderation tools are applied to everyone who might view / screenshot / interact with the post in question.

What mod tools? Shouldn't need a login to view or screenshot. Interaction should require an account but I see no reason for the others.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

So a bullshit excuse

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Musk is currently fighting with Laura Loomer over this and even pretended to be someone else in order to argue with her over Twitter Spaces and it is very, very funny to watch.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

christ it should be a rule to never post links to sites that require accounts or logins when sharing information about a discussion without also providing screenshots or a non-account mirror.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Not sure if there is something better....

https://bskyviewer.github.io/

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Software engineers can devise lots of interesting ways to depose. He’s gonna radicalize the smart people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

CEOs man...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What is so incredible is that the education system in the US is so fucked that so so so so SO many high skill, high education jobs need to be brought in from overseas. Meanwhile Elon just wants to fuck over the education system in the US even more.

The reason why he wants to bring in foreign labor is, in all likelihood, to make his employees more easily controlled. Expats are less likely to raise a fuss about their living conditions and may not have much of a connection to the political movements around them to take part in protests. Also if those employees have their visa's dependent entirely on the whims of their employer, if they DO get uppity in any way, they can face almost immediate deportation upon being fired.

In short, he does not give a fuck about Americans. It is 100% about control and exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And what happens to us who were born here? Where are we supposed to go when all the jobs that we could fill are being taken by H1Bs and Optimus robots?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

And what happens to us who were born here? Where are we supposed to go when all the jobs that we could fill are being taken by H1Bs and Optimus robots?

these immigrants are not taking the jobs that most Americans work. high-skilled Indians and Chinese are filling shortages in engineering, doctors, etc. vast majority of Americans are not competing with these groups

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Immigrants. Expats is a classist term.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can we ask Musk to volunteer to become the world's first recorded instance of a Mellified Man? Then science can determine if it's truly a medical marvel or not. He'll be the only one to have done it! I think his ego might go for that.

Plus it'll be sweeter when we eat him. Candied CEO sounds kinda good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Finally, you could sincerely call him a sweet man

[–] [email protected] 105 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Super talented = extremely desperate foreigners who'll work 90hr weeks for very low pay.

Just in case anyone needed a translation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

I was "lucky" enough to be around during the dot-com meltdown and seeing H-1Bs still being used/abused, even as so many citizens were being cast away. This scam has been around for quite some time. The cap was 115K in 99 and 2000.

Perversely, when the bubble really started taking its toll, the cap was 195K from 2001-2003.

During much of this time period, you'd look around and see 200 people applying for one cruddy junior/intermediate type of software engineer position. Why the cap was not zeroed out in emergency legislation tells you all you need to know about anyone looking out for Americans who work for a living.

Companies claiming things are so dire that they just cannot find the local talent are so very full of it. If they were the least bit genuine, they'd be paying HIGHER wages to the people they do bring in on a visa and they'd be lobbying for permanent status, not this six year max thing.

Now if Elmo was talking about basically being a worldwide talent scout to bring people here with full citizenship status AND being paid top dollar, we'd be talking something different, but if he's talking about more H-1Bs, it's the same old shit as it ever was....

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

And who are really indentured servitude type slaves

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