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cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/post/977608

The new tool, called Mobile Fortify, uses the CBP system which ordinarily takes photos of people when they enter or exit the U.S., according to internal ICE emails viewed by 404 Media. Now ICE is using it in the field.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Using facial id software on people while wearing a fucking mask. What happened, guys?! I thought you couldn't breathe under there!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I thought they didn't care about the identity and just kidnapped whoever they felt like. Do they really need this?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

time for every immigrant to change style, grow a beard/shave it, change hair cut. start using makeup.

question, would that work?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That just makes me wanna wear my nondescript ball cap & aviators with a medical mask.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What a shame it'd be if the app/database got hacked and everything got deleted so ICE couldn't identify anyone /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Hello Americans... welcome to the forth Reich!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Bear in mind what AOC told us about the "Big Beautiful Bill". ICE now has a bigger budget than the FBI, DEA and Bureau of Prisons combined. After they zip-tie you and throw you in the van they can light their Cuban cigars with $100 bills.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

What would happen if these people started those bleaching tablets, like MJ used...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Wear Juggalo make up. Doubt they are using depth perception. Since that data would probably not be available.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Boy, it sure would be annoying if someone started to flood their tip line with fake reports. I'd hate to think of the wasted time they'd have to dedicate investigating each of these claims.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It would be best if done on a burner with a different IMEI & IMSI while also not at a place related to where you frequent. The FBI who now has fewer resources than ICE and they were using facial recognition and cell phone data to identify large groups of the opposition not too long ago. It wouldn't be a stretch to think ICE is going to do the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I guarantee anyone getting paid by ICE for information is already a boot-chugger who doesn't need the money to begin with. It's all a part of the gift.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

And it'll be ashame to do it in small conservative towns.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They’re trying to criminalize it in my state

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

... for now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I predict it being ubiquitous one day, where everyone has the ability to id others. It's already a thing in los Angeles. Also, I was just reading about how a person's gait can be used to identify someone, so wearing a mask won't be enough. Technology is just gonna get better.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

People use reverse image search today to stalk women. It's horrible

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Try reading my gait when I'm on an escooter/bike/whatever and recognising my face from behind a full face helmet. (I'm just being safe.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Looks like Palantir's shit is already in action...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Decline to use facial rec at airports due to this shit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They already have your face when you got your license @ your local DMV.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Don't be defeatist. Every new capture benefits them, and every refusal takes that away from them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

"Well, you know where the exit is."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Decline? You think you have a choice?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You actually explicitly do have a choice

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just imagining this and laughing. "Actually gestapo, it's my right to not be disappeared against my will!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I've done it. Recently. Walked up with my palm covering the camera so it didn't see me while I approached, stepped to the side of it once I could, said I opt out, and went through.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You idiot. I said in my post "decline at the airport" - meaning decline when the TSA asks to do it at airport security Not when ICE tries to take picture on a street

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You think TSA (a part of DHS) and ICE (also a part of DHS) are somehow disconnected and not working hand in hand towards the same exact goal?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Yes, you can opt out of TSA facial recognition"

https://www.travelandleisure.com/how-to-opt-out-tsa-facial-recognition-at-airport-11726739

You can opt out at the airport. That's a fact. Not sure how that relates to whatever you're saying but doesn't matter because whatever you are saying is not relevant to the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

They have the passport photos already regardless... So don't travel to the USA...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Got it. So everyone wears cardboard cut out masks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

With Trump's face pasted on them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

"Felon detected!"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Considering that the US still does not have any kind of working national census, and only relies of the deeply flawed social security system for a national ID database, I wonder how accurate this system is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They probably just use Facebook + LinkedIn or other public databases. I remember a project on hackaday of someone who did something similar and found with some basic programming, it's definitely possible to get some matches. But that was years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

They are using the CBP database according to that article.. who knows what version two will have though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Considering they're just looking for a pretext to arrest someone, I think it's accurate enough for them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not, but it might be enough to reduce the ridiculously high number of erroneous ~~kidnappings~~ detentions. Not that they give enough of a fuck to be embarrassed by their ineptitude, but even they recognize that screwing up so much only serves to give their critics (additional) legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

False positives are more common than false negatives.

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