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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a one issue account just report him and leave comments calling out the behavior.

The issue will fix it self.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don’t think it will, though. I’ve reported the misinformation, and it’s still up as of right now.

I honestly am not even sure that mods should be in the habit of deciding that things are “probably” misinformation and removing them. In practice, they are not in that habit, so it’s not a solution. And even if they were, I certainly don’t think that the whole topic should be banned for discussion among the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude. It's Christmas, and even if it wasn't, mods aren't a 24/7 presence.

If something gets seen and handled in a day or two, it's fine for anything that isn't illegal or dangerous to the instance.

Not that the mods/admins have to agree with your interpretation of whatever it is being misinformation to the kind of standard that needs intervention, but there's other reasons it could still be up that are entirely unrelated

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If something gets seen and handled in a day or two, it’s fine for anything that isn’t illegal or dangerous to the instance.

Not that the mods/admins have to agree with your interpretation of whatever it is being misinformation

Completely agree on all fronts. Personally, the idea “just report it, don’t say anything, mods will deal with it with their powers, it’s not for you to make these decisions or talk to one another about these things” seems kind of paternalistic on both fronts. There’s no guarantee that they’ll get it right 100% of the time, and even if they did, it would be good for us to talk about what’s going on when there is an issue that does (or doesn’t, if I am off base about this) impact the nature of the discussion on the network.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 week ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (18 children)

be anymore vague

  1. be any more vague

  2. be vague anymore

Don't split the lanes, man.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I was trying to talk about the situation without specifically linking to the comments or starting any kind of brigade situation. I figured being vague was better than being inflammatory, and anyone who cared enough would know what I was taking about, which seems to be accurate.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago

Musk is getting desperate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

This unactionable vaguepost is what suffices as a YSK?

Rule 2- Your post body text must include the reason "Why" YSK

Why should I know this, OP?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

True, this tells us nothing

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I replied to the person directly with why it isn’t true, and I reported them with an actionable report.

I wasn’t sure about the ethics of brigading or linking directly at the person, but presumably anyone who cares can find them pretty easily, and anyone who reads this and then also reads the misinformation, will be able to see the connection and make their own decision about whether I am speaking truly.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This really could be any one of thousands of people on lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 228 points 1 week ago (17 children)

You just described the average Tankie around here lmao

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Yeah, there’s kind of a Poe’s Law situation.

A lot of the sincere tankies, though, at least want to talk about what they’re into, and have elaborate reasons why it’s all true. The low-effort “I can’t even be bothered to try to mount a defense, I just wanted to say Wikipedia is doxing its users and kowtowing to fascist governments, and now that I’ve said it my task is done” behavior is a little more indicative of a disingenuous propaganda account in my experience.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Doesn't LW have a rule against desinformation and asking for reliable sources since the cat vegan food affair?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (37 children)

It only applies to misinformation that might cause significant harm to some organism, which doesn’t apply to this.

Personally, I don’t think that LW should make the attempt to police misinformation completely, since it’s sort of a judgement call a lot of the time. I think it’s better that people be able to argue out whether something is true or false, or intended disingenuously or not, all on their own without the mods needing to decide for them, because misinformation has such a big grey area that you can’t make an objective determination and be right about it 100% of the time.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Thanks! Blocked em

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

The last thread OP participated in features a comment from OP countering something said about Wikipedia by wikipediasuckscoop. Looks like that's who.

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