I've tried it out. The block oriented command execution is neat, but yeah, they absolutely could do without the cloud login and AI shit
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The block thing is nice, would love to have that. Not willing to sign into a cloud thing to use a terminal though.
nice malware
Terminal emulator with cloud sign-in. Ah yes, that's exactly where I should be entering my root password. Genius.
Pretty sure this is just malware with extra steps.
Requiring a login is enough of a misread of the market to kill interest in the product, but looking through their marketing materials, some other stuff jumped out at me.
Like on Mac, Warp for Linux is built fully in Rust and all graphics rendering is done directly on the GPU.
I'm sure it has fallbacks, but I wonder how it will handle environments where the gpu is broken and cpu rendering is being used...
And like on Mac, Warp for Linux supports zsh, bash and fish out of the box. It’s compatible with your existing shell setup.
I mean, yeah? I expect a terminal emulator to be able to support anything that has a stdin, stdout and stderr. The fact that it only lists three shells is concerning to me... Is it trying to do anything fancy with those shells? Will it respect .zshrc and powerline?
The input works more like a normal text editor (including mouse support) and has in-built completions, syntax highlighting, and support for multiple-cursors.
If you actually want those features, that's your shell's job. Not your terminal emulator. And presumably if you need these fancy features you'll just use a normal text editor to make a shell script.
Warp’s integrated AI...
Don't care. Let me turn it off or I'm not using your product.
[The terminal is] an unusually text-heavy and obscure interface.
You're marketing a terminal emulator to Linux users who are going out of their way to change their terminal experience. They likely aren't going to agree with you dismissing the command line as "obscure".
It’s a space where you can save your most important parameterized commands as reusable workflows you can search, share, and run on-demand.
This is just ~/bin and git with vendor lockin. Excellent value-add.
I generally agree with you.
The input works more like a normal text editor (including mouse support) and has in-built completions, syntax highlighting, and support for multiple-cursors.
If you actually want those features, that's your shell's job. Not your terminal emulator. And presumably if you need these fancy features you'll just use a normal text editor to make a shell script.
I, personally, would like to see a terminal / shell / whatever with support of standard, modern text input: CTRL + Arrows to skip words, CTRL + SHIFT + Arrows to select whole words, deleting all of selected text etc. I find it baffling that the terminal – the main text input of my system – uses a different way of text input than any other text field.
I never realised that for most people terminals don't have intuitive shortcuts. But most terminals use Emacs shortcuts, so if you get used to that it becomes quite intuitive. I know those shortcuts are not universal, but it's not that the shortcuts aren't there, or that they didn't used a standard, it's just that the standard they use didn't become the standard most people are used to.
~~Good news, your requirements already work in Konsole.~~
Edit: no
I just installed Konsole to try it out. CTRL + Arrows to jump between words works, but this also works in Blackbox and Gnome Terminal. :D
CTRL + SHIFT + Arrows for selecting words, SHIFT + Arrows for selecting characters, nor deleting selected text doesn’t work in Konsole, Blackbox, nor Gnome Terminal.
My bad, I was wrong. The selection mode in Konsole is indeed very wonky. From the manual:
Selection Mode
Konsole has a selection by keyboard mode. In this mode it is possible to move around the scroll-
back and select text without the mouse.
Enter and leave this mode by using the keyboard shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+D by default).
Moving the cursor: Arrows, PageUp, PageDown, Home, End.
Moving the cursor vi style: h,j,k,l, to move one character, Ctrl+b,f,u,d for page up/down or half
page up/down.
Select text by using Ctrl or Shift with arrows, or by using V to start selection, moving the cursor
and then V again to end selection. Shift-V selects whole lines, instead of characters.
Looks like fig. Same shit, different company.
I didn't expect this to be something I would actually use but I was mildly excited to try it out just out of curiosity. Then it asked me to log in. Login to a fucking terminal emulator. I have no words.
Thought it was gonna be an optional thing... Feel disgusted for having even posted this now........
Yes, they are not very upfront with this requirement, almost like they have understood that people doesn't like it, but instead of fixing it they just try to hide it from their marketing material. And that doesn't feel shady at all...
Idk about this one. It's kinda controversial, but if Zed can have a comeback after it's whole TOS and Licencing debacle then I guess this is worthwhile to look into too.
Why is this getting so many downvotes?
From their documentation
Unlike classic terminals, Warp requires you to sign up and log in to get started with the app.
So, yeah, it might be that people are not very impressed by a terminal that requires a cloud account.
But, if you don't type anything sensitive on to your terminal, like passwords and such, then you should be fine....
Ah. Yeah that would do it. I absolutely do not want a terminal that makes me login to some sort of cloud account.
It's had some controversies and criticism in the past.
