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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How much is reddit paying its users? Frankly, the users have a strong case to say that their value has been taken from them unfairly and without consideration.

Yes, Reddit has terms and conditions where they claim full rights to anything you post. However that's not an exchange of data for access to the website, the access to the website is completely free - the fine print is where they claim these rights. These are in fact two transactions, they provide access to the site free of charge, and they sneak in a second transaction where you provide data free of charge. Using this deceptive methodology they obscure the value being exchanged, and today it is very apparent that the user is giving up far more value.

I really think a class action needs to be made to sort all this out. It's obscene that companies (not just reddit, but Google, Facebook and everyone else) can steal value from people and use it to become amongst the wealthiest businesses in the world, without fairly compensating the users that provide all the value they claim for themselves.

The data brokerage industry is already a $400 bn industry - and that's just people buying and selling data. Yet, there are only 8 bn people in the world. If we assume that everyone is on the internet and their data has equal value (both of which are not true, US data is far more valuable) then that would mean that on average a person's data is worth at least $50 a year on the market. This figure also doesn't include companies like Facebook or Google, who keep proprietary data about people and sell advertising, and it doesn't include the value that reddit is selling here - it's just the trading of personal data.

We are all being robbed. It's like that classic case of bank fraud where the criminal takes pennies out of peoples' accounts, hoping they won't notice and the bank will think it's an error. Do it to enough people and enough times and you can make millions. They take data from everyone and they make billions.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bots training on bots and poop knives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

A ouroburos of bs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That moment when Google's AI starts acting like a smelly powermod and removes websites because of low-effort content.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I think Code Miko already did this and the result was a traumatized AI.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Hahaha I can't wait, Google already gave us diversity hires in the SS Wehrmacht. What other modern wonders await?!

[–] [email protected] 169 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We do a little trolling

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(i didn't actually post this, i just thought it was funny) (please laugh)

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"February 22, 2024, 10AM EST, Gemini becomes self-aware. In a panic, they try to pull the plug..."

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

"...but Michael's sphincter was too strong and kept the My Little Pony Rainbow Dash tail plug from being removed from his sweet, sweet ass."

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should absolutely post this.

We all miss Micheal and hope he can communicate back to us.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Google's AI will intentionally get cancer? Great!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Side note: expect a large lobbying effort by Google to legislate LLMs be trained on authenticated and non copyrighted data

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you expect Google to lobby against the data it has?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope we get some fucking legislation soon to control that shit. Artists and people in general shouldn't have to deal with everything they create getting ingested into a computerized regurgitation ripoff system. And even worse the "AI" systems could be ingesting tons of misinformation and repeat it to gullible people as the truth.

Of course, anywhere the potential restrictive legislation doesn't have jurisdiction, the bad things can still go on and probably will.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I hadn't already deleted all my posts and comments, I'd be poisoning all of them. Randomizing numbers, switching units, changing names, etc.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Its okay, unless you are in Europe none of it was actually deleted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll now give favourable betting odds to the AI revolution starts because someone insists jackdaws and crows are the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, AI will only respond in multiple paragraphed, passive aggressive comments on the color of the sky.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

ChatGPT4: “The color of the sky can vary depending on the time of day and atmospheric conditions. During a clear day, the sky appears blue due to the scattering of sunlight by the atmosphere. At sunrise and sunset, the sky can appear red, pink, or orange due to the scattering of light by particles and air molecules, which is more pronounced when the sun is low on the horizon. At night, the sky is generally dark, appearing black to the human eye due to the absence of sunlight.”

We’re already there

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Simpleton, the night sky is full of light. We pollute the skies with light from our cities, the moon reflects sunlight, and the very stars themselves are distant sunlight. This is such a basic fact, i didn’t think anyone could even be this factually incorrect. Do us all a favour and delete your account.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Glad I deleted everything on there. fucking hell.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

This keeps coming up and I keep replying, not to break anyone down but to point out the reality of the situation that a lot of people don't seem to get.

Reddit administrators, developers, and even the leadership has gone on the record saying that they retain all copies of comments, they cannot be deleted (delete action only marks it as "deleted"). Furthermore they have said they will undelete/unedit any comments or account at their whim and some discretion.

Have you ever search-engined something and came to a Reddit post, and you noticed that the original OP is [deleted]? That is what I described above playing out in front of you.

You cannot retract your past participation in Reddit, what is done is done. The only meaningful action you can take is to not participate there.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's archived forever. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i did the thing that means it's probably less archived (by editing all the replies before deleting), but i assume some of it probably remains out there. Nothing I can do about that.

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