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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

I don't think this is earth shattering news. These companies identify when the audience is barely paying attention (to content and ads) and spits out the cheap stuff. I watch fly fishing and fly tying videos on YouTube and often fall asleep with it on. Then I wake up to the third hour of a professional bass fishing tournament. It happens a lot

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But I am grateful for independent journalism, which is now my main hope for the future.

Well guess who's in control of eyeballs on those journalists?

Social media companies, who have clear incentives to deprioritize such content and have repeatedly shown they do.

Let’s reclaim music from the technocrats. They have not proven themselves worthy of our trust.

While I agree with the article, I have issue with this line. These are not technocrats, they are "leaders" willing to make companies and their products objectively worse in the name of short term profits. These aren't 'technical experts put in charge,' they are greedy, spineless pigs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Wow, and they didn't even get into the seperate streaming numbers.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I didn't know this, but it makes sense. One of my biggest complaints about streaming (Pandora is guilty of this, too) is that anyone with a copy of Ableton and a mediocre talent can crank out tracks barely modifying the base toolset. I tend to listen to a lot of variants of electronic music. 95% of the music is absolute crap. 4.5% is tolerable. And 0.5% might end up in my playlist. Less tan 1:100/songs. I have no doubt that “band” or artist names were made up to crank something out, abandoned, and started up under a different name to churn out more boring samesies hoping for a few plays in one of those “made for you” playlists.

So the service doing this for themselves and enabling it for profit isn’t surprising.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

One of my biggest complaints about streaming (Pandora is guilty of this, too) is that anyone with a copy of Ableton and a mediocre talent can crank out tracks barely modifying the base toolset.

People being able to do art isn't a bad thing, and I'm glad streaming has made publishing so much more accessible.

If you don't like it you don't have to listen to it. Every time some algorithm playlist churns out another spoonful of slop you don't actually have to open wide.

You could just look up the artists you like and what other people like that's like those artists, or look at collabs they've done or who remixes them or been remixed or covered by them and who they've been in bands with and what genre they tag to see who else is in that (micro)genre/niche.

I've never actually listened to someone else's playlists, not man-made nor generated, only my own, and I regularly listen to extremely niche folks with 1k-40k Monthly Listeners all of whom are completely legitimate artists with unique great music, many of them electronic actually.

The truth is that 99% of people like copy-paste slop and that's why they click on the slop and gravitate towards algos or charts for top ten artists.

And a global market for music with a low entry barrier means that it's easier than ever to get started artistically expressing yourself for fun and for yourself, just as it should be, but still hard to be actually heard if you want to take it commercial, even if it's fairer system than the gatekeeping of labels.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Art… look, I get the premise of what you’re saying, but just because art is mediocre or just bad doesn’t free it of criticism because “art.” It can be shitty art and be called exactly that. It’s not sacred.

Edit: nice massive edit you did.

And is this argument that “if i don’t like it I don’t have to listen to it”? The WHOLE POINT of Spotify is to listen to it and be exposed to music, and my position was that it’s littered with crap. You’re basically telling me that if I don’t like billboards along the roadside I shouldn’t bother having a car? Lol, whatever man. Shitty art is still shitty art. Not everything belongs in a gallery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah sure, it's actually good to think critically about it, but that doesn't mean it's existence is a negative, which is how your comment comes off - dismissive.

In the same way the world would be a slightly worse place without the joys of b-movies like The Room or Suburban Sasquatch or Plan 9 FOS, or without outsider musicians like Daniel Johnston etc...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t need to listen to badly made music any more than I need to be exposed to budget hotel room art on the walls of the Louvre. You wanna watch B movies? Great! But nobody’s inserting 30 C and D films between your current netflix series.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The chart showing how much money the CEO has made off selling the stock.. wouldn't he run out of shares? It appears executives have sold over a billion dollars in 2024.

Makes you wonder if they heard these investigations were ongoing and figured they'd sell shares before lawsuits came and any potential dips in the company worth.

If so.. insider trading charges would be nice

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

CEOs are often compensated with stock, AFAIK.

Insider trading is almost a joke now, and about to become way more of one under the next few years of the SEC.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

If so.. insider trading charges would be nice

Yes with fines that lead than the profits... Nowadays charges are just used to seal the deal, see plebs, I settled with dady government, everything is cool.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (5 children)

One of the best thing to do is to pirate almost all of your music and then reward the creators by going to their shows, buying them shirts or even CDs (you can also rip physical copy if piracy is not a thing)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ideally just send them money, most of the are set up for donations.

Tshirts and CDs create waste unless you actually end up using them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I totally agree with your point of view, I was talking to buy stuff to use it. When sending money I usually just gives some money to the group at the end of the show by hand

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

"Nice show Ms Swift, there's a tenner for you, maybe buy something nice with it"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When sending money I usually just gives some money to the group at the end of the show by hand

Lmao WHAT? You don't seriously expect people to believe this...do you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Ohh sorry if I make myself misunderstood but I really listen and go live to small to medium groups so I can definitely to this, but maybe you can't, no problems online (or IRL) donations are the solution

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