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[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

That's the jury working exactly they way it should

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago

Juror 1: It wasn't him. I know it in my heart...because I've had congenital heart disease my whole life, so I'm acutely aware of how my heart is feeling at all times. Like when my insurance company raised my premiums, I felt that in my heart. I feel this verdict in my heart, too.

Juror 2: At first, I thought it was him, but then I didn't. Something about it made me change my mind. He just looks like a highly principled person. The media owes this man an apology.

Juror 3: This reminds me of the time I went to the ER with a severe migraine, and the insurance company denied payment for the visit because there was no proof that I had a migraine and said it could have been anxiety, which wasn't covered in my plan. Maybe this wasn't murder. Maybe this was assault. I guess we'll never know now.

Juror 4: The prosecution made a good case, but the defense made one very good point: the victim has a long history of gaslighting vulnerable people. It made it hard to trust them.

Juror 5: I think it was a cover up. Maybe the "victim" killed himself and wanted to make it look like a murder so his family would get the insurance money. They seemed to know a lot about insurance loopholes and tactics.

Juror 6: I feel for the victim, but I think that considering the charges, they need a second opinion...Oh, the law states that someone can't be tried for the same crime twice? If they think that is unjust, they could work with government to come up with a better system then. Though it is going to be a tough battle to repeal the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution since they will need approval from 38 states, but maybe they have the public's sympathy.

Juror 7: I'm glad this trial is over. I need to get to the home to take care of my wife with cancer. The insurance company keeps giving me trouble, and she's too weak to fight it.

Juror 8: Did you know that the defendant hadn't even met the victim once. Who targets a random stranger for no reason at all? The prosecution wasn't able to make a case defining the motive of the defendant.

Juror 9: In my experience, you have to be careful with insurance companies. You can never trust them. The prosecution was working for an insurance company, so it was hard to believe anything they presented.

Juror 10: As a family practice doctor, I have to deal with insurance companies that lie about denials all the time, so I can tell when they are lying, and I think they were lying in the trial.

Juror 11: NOT GUILTY. The defendant seemed to be defending others from death or serious bodily injury, which is legal according to New York Penal Law 35.15.

Juror 12: The defense made a good point. The victim had told his doctor that he smoked a cigarette once in college, and I heard that smoking cigarettes can lead to poor health. Maybe the victim would have survived if he hadn't smoked before. We have to consider that.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There's a McDonald's worker able to be jury. Oh wait, he didn't get the reward money as his claim got denied for bullshit reasons, just like insurance... Never mind.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is there a source for this? Last time I heard about it, it turned out to be just a ”possibly, maybe, it could be denied”, but nothing was decided yet.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So, the reports say "might not get it" Like this report but in almost all cases reward money isn't paid. In this case I'd think he has somewhat of a chance to get it due to public pressure, now that it's in the media. But in most cases it is denied because of bullshit reasons. "Thanks to your tip we were able to catch the guy, but through other sources we would have found him as well, so, no" or "multiple agencies offered reward money, so they both say the other one should pay up, so none pay up" or "you didn't follow the right procedures to get the money" or any other bullshit reason to deny payout. Often you'd have to prove you were the sole reason the person got caught, while you don't have access to restricted case files so good luck with that.

It basically works like the health insurance system in the US. They will do anything they can to reject your claim while you will have to fight to get what you should.

Fun fact: radio stations do the same. They offer amazing prices, get loads of people to listen 'to find the hidden clue', have them call an expensive phone number. They pick a winner, have them on the air over the phone, everyone hears how happy they are by winning, so people will try to compete next time again. But they never get a price. Because, no one will hear they didn't get any. Or at least, this used to be so, now with social media it's harder to hide these shady tactics.

Not just radio stations by the way, This was recently.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

he called the wrong number to report it. u have to call a special crimenow number

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hahahaha, the corporate shill got shafted. Rip bozo, maybe you learned something.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Both teams will be given an opportunity to eliminate potential jurors they believe are too sympathetic to the one side or the other.

Good luck with that, you can only weed out a limited number, and there's a fucking lot of us.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Working as intended, jury of his peers not some mindless robots.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Jury Nullfication is the People's Presidential Pardon

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just don't mention jury nullification in front of a judge or prosecutor. They hate that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Definitely mention it, just not at your own trial or after you've been selected for jury duty

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Shame it even got past Grand Jury

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was there even a Grand Jury? Those are not required in most states, only on federal charges.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Figure o speech then ;)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That was a forgone conclusion since they only need a majority vote and they only hear evidence from the prosecution.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These clowns have no idea they're so out of touch with everyday Americans

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Billionaries and CEOs don't bother to show up to jury duty

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine they show for this though...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If I was the only working class juror, I would try my hardest to get the CEO jurors sequestered with me.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe this is somewhat similar to a woman killing her rapist, after police refuse to investigate? There are probably examples of leniency in such cases.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe set an income limit of $25 million per year to be on the jury?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

~~murder~~ societal self-defense

[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 weeks ago

Sympathy and empathy are definitely a problem in an openly corrupt, heartless justice system that only serves the elite.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Jury nullification is a fundamental aspect of the American jury system, allowing jurors to acquit defendants despite overwhelming evidence of guilt if they deem the law unjust or immoral. This concept has its roots in colonial America and has been exercised throughout U.S. history, often in response to unjust laws or societal norms."

For those not on the know.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Werent the admins banning posts about jury nullification for some bullshit "glorifying violence" reason or something?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

.world did for a little bit but i think they ended up deciding that it can be referenced for an already done crime, whereas if it is said in context before someone commits a crime then it would be considered inciting violence or whatever.

So it's ok in this context of Luigi, the alleged killer.

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