I think it can be done with far less travel. One can observe the length of a shadow of an object with a known height at solar noon for a year. Then travel north by car for half a day and observe the length of shadow. Then travel south by car for half a day and observe the length. You can actually use these measurements not only to demonstrate that you aren’t on a flat plane, but also to estimate the radius of the earth.
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I think the language in his video is very important and different than "admitting defeat" with his beliefs. He just admits that he didn't believe the 24 hour sun in the southern hemisphere, and that specific belief was proven wrong. "So what does that mean? You are going to have to figure it out yourself." doesn't really sound like his belief of the flat earth was defeated.
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One of them claims it was "staged". As if it's possible to fake the Sun being visible for 24 hours. There's no convincing people like that.
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“idk man, science is wrong all the time…”
I mean it's a lot cheaper to go to northern Canada or the Nordics if you want to experience 24h/sun (or night).
The reason they chose Antarctica is because the most often used flat earth model* has Antarctica as a ring on the "rim".
They usually do acknowledge a 24h sun in the north existing based on that model because it would require the sun to remain central over the disc, which is geometrically not really an issue. However the southern 24h sun is not possible with that model. (Edit: Excluding some weird lensing effects or multiple suns, like some of them claim)
*Most of them will tell you they don't have a model, because they don't really know what "model" means.
Source: I watched too many SciManDan videos.
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This should not be ridiculed but seen as what it is: realizing you got something wrong and admitting that.
This is very important, because otherwise those who are in the wrong will never admit it and double down to at least still be in their old social circle.
right. we should all be praising this person for waking up from their slumber
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*Flat Earther. One dude. The rest are either dumb or trolling.
There were several of them who refused to go on the trip, which they were offered for free, and then when other people went on the trip, they claimed that footage of the trip was faked in some way.
I agree, the people are doing good, who went there and admitted the truth of what they were seeing. There’s a whole category that are even further gone than that, though, to where their brains will actively shield them against something that might threaten the whole self-referential structure.
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I mean the whole flat earth thing started as trolling anyway...
but then as with many conspiracies, it proved valuable to certain powerful actors who want us all to hate eachother
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And they'll act like this guy was never one of them, and is a plant from the "globies" to trick them.
Because anything that disproves the conspiracy is actually part of the conspiracy
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