I want it to stay sprung forward, can't remember if that's DST or non. I feel like I'm in the minority, but fuck if I care if it's dark in the morning I want sunlight for longer once I'm done working...
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DST is sprung forward. It happens in the summer. Standard time is what the northern hemisphere is on now in the winter.
Fun fact. In the winter the sun is pretty close to its highest at Noon but I the summer that happens at 1:00 pm.
I suppose it makes some difference how far East to West you are in your timezone too, but this time of year I'm dark on my way to work and dark on my way home, if we were still in DST I'd have an hour of sunlight still after work. It's only about 6 weeks that are that extreme for me but I'd still prefer DST. And I love the long summer nights when it's light until almost 10 lol
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If he doesn't, I'll shoot him myself. Canada will probably come up with some other shitty excuse once they can't say they do it for US trade any more though.
I don't really like having clock shifts, but I will say that it's less obnoxious in 2024 when most of my clocks update automatically.
In, say, 1990, it was an ongoing headache to have to manually fiddle all the timekeeping devices twice a year. Invariably, there'd be a timepiece or two that I'd forget about and not update until months later. Now I typically don't even notice, just have one slightly-groggy day a year and one day a year when I wake up early.
I have that internal clock punishment thing going on. Since the last change I've been on time twice, and I probably won't be on track until it changes back and ruins me again. I used to forcefully hack it by having energy drinks for a week or so but these days one or two of those and blood comes out. At least at my current job nobody will hassle me about my hours if I still get the work done, but I miss being able to maintain a schedule that makes sense.
Then there's my animals. They will never understand and give me the look of "come on, this wasnt funny the last 5 years so why are you doing this again?"
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This sucks because it means he absolutely definitely will not do this.
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It's funny because extending DST is the only productive thing W. did too
In other news, RFK has recommended extending this to eliminate both daylight and time.
“Oh, yum! I found a chocolate chip in this bucket of catshit that the ruling class is shoveling down my throat!”
I find going on and off DST to be kind of a nuisance, but I don't have strong feelings about it one way or the other. It seems like the experience varies from place to place, and your region's distance to the equator is an important factor. The closer you are to the equator, the less necessary DST is.
Historically, some of the regions that went off of DST much prefer it that way, and never looked back. But others regretted opting out of it, and went back to doing it again after everyone complained about it.
I'm sure 47 will make it all about him, whatever he does. And it will probably be a chaotic mess of software patches when they try to implement it. There will be far worse problems to deal with during the Stupid Ages, but throw this one on the pile I guess.
Probably the only good thing he'd ever do, look forward to seeing how they fuck it up.
Broken clock.
Twice a year?
I wonder how he'll make it worse.
He'll lock it into non-dst to the sun won't rise until 8:30 in the winter in the middle latitude states.
But dst doesn't change what the sun does. Just the arbitrary number us humans put on it. Not changing a pattern 2 times a year seems great! Who cares what number it is? I used to love in Minnesota, DST and short winter days, now I live in Arizona, we have plenty of sun and no DST. The sun rises at 5am in Arizona in the summer. But that changes nothing about my day.
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He's going to rename it Trump Time.
Donald Savings Time
Fuck, I hate it when he's right.
The EU parliament had a vote to abolish DST, and it passed. They just forgot to hammer out the details, then COVID and Ukraine happened, so focus shifted.
I hope they'll pick up the ball again at some point.
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This was on the docket to be voted on in 2023 (i think, could have been 2022) and it never made it to the floor. Why? His cronies. They just let it fall by the side, probably so they could do it now. I’m so sick and tired of this shit show if a govt. Failed fucking state.
This needs to be top comment. So many little things he does that sane people like are just things Republicans blocked until they could be the ones to do the thing.
Any state can abolish DST on its own, some have already done so.
There was a bill in Congress to put the entire country on permanent DST (which states can't do on their own). It died because (a) some states don't want permanent DST, and (b) doctors have found that permanent DST is less healthy than no DST.
In fact, Congress already tried permanent DST briefly in the 70s. Some children were killed in early morning traffic accidents, schools responded by shifting their winter hours later, and the public generally turned against it.
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Besides impotently complaining about it on the internet, what else can we do about it?
Impotently complain harder
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This has been bugging me of late so I'll ask here even though FTR I hate that I agree with Trump:
Why don't we just split the difference and offset by 30 min for the whole year/permanently?
God no. The math with timezones is painful enough without having to deal with half hour offsets.
Actually, there are some timezones with offsets of half or even quarter hours, but the company where I work in software engineering doesn't do any business in those timezones, so I've never had to deal with that particular brand of madness.
Just get rid of DST. It was never a good idea. "Noon" should mean that the sun is directly overhead (or at least directly overhead east-west-wise if not north-south-wise) and "midnight" should be the midpoint between any two adjacent noons. (Ok, yes, if you live on the extreme eastern or western edge of a timezone, then at noon, the position of the sun may be up to 7.5° off of directly overhead east-west-wise. But yeah.)
Just adopt GMT and make time meaningless.
Nah, not GMT. UTC. It's the more accurate successor, and all computers already use it.
Not to mention, everyone will always know what time you are talking about anywhere in the world, and based on your own experience, you know if it will be during the day or not.
Timezones will no longer matter, making software handling time so much easier.
I support this idea however it will never happen.People are going to want 9 am to be when the sun comes up.
Switching to a different 24 hour clock won’t help. People are use to 10 being when the sun is up and 23 when the night is happening.
Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.
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They’re effectively the same thing
I understand what you mean, BUT I live in AZ and Im not going to have AZ be both 30 minutes ahead of Cali, 30 minutes behind Utah, and an hour and 30 behind New Mexico. No, you all either fall in line with how time is supposed to work or you can keep doing your shitty Daylight Savings bullshit
I take it AZ doesn't follow DST? I don't see how springing ahead 30min instead of the hour next time and being done would cause that much of an issue
Im going to guess youre not from the US? Heres a Time Zone map with the States listed.
I got my own groupings of time zones a little twisted in my head, I didnt think New Mexico was Mountain Time. Regardless, Arizona and Hawaii dont follow DST. Shifting all the US states by 30 minutes for an arbitrary reason doesnt solve anything really and kind of just fucks with global time standards.
Because compromise makes neither side truly happy
We are already trying to compromise with switch back and forth.
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
I personally don't even care which one, I just want either of them and make it permanent.
Okay, I'll choose, keep the sun up later. Make the day last till at least 7 PM in the winter. That way I can still see it after work. I don't give a shit when I'm driving to work.
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30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
What would be complicated?
Uhhh...the rest of the world being 30 minutes + however many hours different?
Converting times to other timezones would be extra annoying.
It's already too anoying to deal with.
Splitting the difference would be slightly easier, since it stops changing at arbitrary days of the year.
It would still change at arbitrary days, because other countries will still use it.
I don't know who chose that headlining image of him pointing (and looking) at the sun, but it's perfect.
I'm imagining thousands of Americans doing the same and some shooting firearms at the sun too.