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Let's face it, the dems don't care about the commoners, the republicans are actually pure evil, everyone was happy when that shitstain CEO got shot.

Maybe we should build on this momentum we have to drive actual change at the political level.

my first act as president in 2029 would be to issue a full and unconditional pardon of the billionaire killer.

edit:

well alrighty then, followup question, does anyone want to join my newly formed political party? I'm going to start working on drafting our mission statement, or manifesto or whatever it should be called.

Further Edit: I set up a lemmy community for us to post shit about it. If you want to join, that's our official, unofficial space. https://lemmy.world/c/newpoliticalparty

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think we're going to gain any traction until we override Citizens United and make bribing public officials illegal again. That would allow us to take back the legislative process and begin passing bills that the super rich are not going to like.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

We need electoral reform that implements a system where more than two parties becomes viable. Imagine splitting left-leaning voters even more than they are now. It’s guaranteed wins for Republicans.

First Past the Post must be done away with and there should instead be a coalition of voters that refuse to support ANY candidate that doesn’t make it their primary campaign policy. Once that’s done, smaller parties will organically be created and incorporated into the system.

Support organizations listed here, specifically FairVote.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Since the democratic party has become arguably centered instead of left, its natural that a new left leaning party should become mainstream

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm part of the forward party if you wanna check it out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

doesnt have to be just one, have many. doesnt even have to be tons of people, just 2 trying to actively do things is something.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

If you do. I think it’s a great idea.

But don’t fall into the “green party” loophole of just sabotaging neo-liberal democrats and helping literal facists get elected.

Start local. Run for seats you can win. Priosritise states with open primary systems.

We need a grassroots movement.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They seem good, but as a disabled person who can’t work, the name is icky.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Work is more then just wage labour. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Well when politicians constantly use work and labour as a way to shore up support, it very quickly forgets and leaves behind those who can’t.

“working people deserve a living wage” (does that imply non-working people don’t?)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone can work in some way

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That is completely untrue and shows you don’t really understand the complexity of disability.

I literally cannot.

I’m able to spend about 30mins-1hr total per day on my phone doing simple tasks. And that’s because I’ve improved, most of my illness course I’ve been unable to use my phone of communicate in any way at all.

I’m completely bedridden and unable to speak, deaf, unable to tolerate much sound or light, tubefed and slowly dying.

I cannot work.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Lol good luck buddy.

Maybe move to Vermont and join the Vermont Progressive Party (or any already existing political party) instead.

Theres not really a "shitting on the rich" movement, like there no real socialist movement in the US that has enough support. The best you can hope for is Social Democracy / Progressivism. And thats probably gonna remain local within a city or state, but never gonna make it into the national level.

The other option is: Join the Democrats and try to teardown the status quo from the inside.

Basically try to get a bunch of supporters to infiltrate the Democratic party like how the magats took over the republican party.

Get your supporters to elect progressives into the democratic national committee. Hijack the party platform. Implement progressive agenda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It exist already. Join PSL

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Pumpkin spice latte?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

i would, but they appear to be tankies who support the NK government and the CCP. I'm very against those failed worker states.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First order: Greed Crimes

Any white collar crime done for the sole benefit of enriching one or siphoning money away from citizens or workers.

Regulatory capture, pyramid schemes, political bribery, hidden tax havens, environmental distruction, writing bills like citizens united, cutting social services, forming monopolies, competition buyouts, blatant conflicts of interest, etc.

We have hate crimes, when something is done out of hatred for a people it is given the harshest penalty because it hurts an entire group.

The thing is, greed crimes ruin the lives of thousands and millions, possibly everyone, and in my opinion should be capital offenses.

We need an investigative oversight committee that stop all functions of a person or company while looking into accusations. If found guilty, a company is dismantled, an individual is executed, their will is ignored and all assets are liquidated and used to remedy the situation that was created.

If found not guilty, you're closely monitored by the greed crime committee for an agreed period. If you are accused of three sepparate greed crimes and different times, even if found not guilty, you should be considered a bad faith potential, and exiled or removed from any position of power.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

That's something Vietnam got right, sentence the corrupt billionaires to death. their greed destroys lives and kills countless people, yet we do nothing to fight back. screw that. It's time to fight back now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right now we don't have a left wing party in the US. We have a right wing party, and a right wing fascist party. As much as members of the fascist party love to shit on the Democrats for being leftists, most of them aren't actually leftist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

The fascist party calls the dems liberals, as if it describes someone who's left of center. In the rest of the world, liberal describes someone who is right wing. It seems like the rest of the world knows better on that one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't see why shitting on rich cunts needs to be political, they are a problem and they should get what they fucking deserve Joker style, simple as that.

But if we're making new parties anyway, one of the primary mandates should absolutely be about completely and utterly ruining the lives of anyone that makes an unnecessary amount of money or hurts others for personal gain.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

we've been shit on too long by the ruling class, it's time we shat back.

We need to dismantle the economic policies which were set when reagan took power. bring back the 75% tax on the wealthiest, tax the shit out of big corpos, tax the shit on inheritance taxes when it's over a certain threshold, end for-profit healthcare and hearth insurance. And undo whatever the hell don the con is going to do when he takes office.

If you want to join, please go to the community https://lemmy.world/c/newpoliticalparty, we need to get the ball rolling so we don't lose this momentum

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Y'all need an actual left of center, worker based party to undo this late stage capitalist nightmare that's happening now

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Based on how the public reacted to a dead parasite there is clearly demand for the alternative to current clown regime.

The Adjuster's hard work last week really highlighted that people are tired and ready for a change.

He has done more to galvanize the public than anyone during my life time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not going to amount to anything if he's the only one taking action. If we've all just been waiting for things to get started then where is everyone now? I've seen tons of "I've got my pitchfork ready for when things get started" posts over the last few years but now that it's supposedly here I only see the one pitchfork.

Obviously I'm not doing anything either but the question I'm getting at is, is it fair to say the public has been galvanized if it's just one guy doing one thing while a bunch of people watch?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

At least everyone can agree that we support him... So that's a step in the right direction.

I am not sure what will come of it but shit posting in his support has to be rattling the owner class.

So there is sone benefit there too.

Bigger picture is that we need politicians to do something but they won't

It seems they don't care to do anything for iseven if we vote for them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be better to join a party that already has shitting on the rich as part of its mission? I mean the two big parties don't have that, but some of the small ones do AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

that's the thing, i can't think of any. the communist party of america is very much just full of tankies circle jerking about how ccp and north korea actually good, the green party is all about spoiling the dems and never actually do anything, the libertarians are fundamentally opposed to my political views. the only political party i can think of would be the bull moose party, but afaik they went extinct after teddy roosevelt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

AFAIK the Greens exclusively run for president because if they get 5% of the popular vote they can get federal funding. Whether that's a good idea overall I have no idea, but there's at least logic to their strategy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

sons of bitches. I wanted that name.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Since you seem interested, start one. Don't ask someone to do it for you, or for their approval. Do what you truly believe, not what others support.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Should you? Why shouldnt you?

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