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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I still find it funny that we used to just have smoking and non-smoking sections, as if the smoke would stay entirely on the smoking side of the restaurant when they're not even physically seperated.

That shit sucked. I am a smoker myself and even I hate being in a closed room to smoke or be around others who are smoking. Casinos fucking suck for this. In California, the smoking ban doesn't include the native American casinos. You can smoke indoors (and drink at 18+) at Jackson Rancheria.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now it just smells like vape

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

In Greece they still smoke there, even if it's banned.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Still true in some parts of the EU

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I used to smoke and we never smoked inside because we knew it made the house stink and the walls yellow. The closest we got to smoking inside was smoking in the garage when it was so cold in the winter that it really wasn't a good idea to be outside in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

A couple years ago I was in I-Hop with the fam and this young woman came in reeking like a walking ashtray. It brought back a semi-nostalgic memory of people I used to know who smoked so much it was in their clothes, their hair, their furniture, etc. - it was part of them. I never minded the smoke itself, it was that rancid cigarette butt stench that I always hated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Now it smells like skittles and creme brulee.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

What a nightmare

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

For people too young to remember, a lot of people were against smoking bans. The argument was pretty simple: "Why not let the market decide? If you want to go to a bar with no smokers, go to one that doesn't allow smoking." This was persuasive to a lot of people.

But I recall that non-smoking bars were extremely rare and I would always end up smelling like smoke every time I went to the bar. The problem was basically that going to a non-smoking bar would exclude any friends that smoked, so bars that became non-smoking were limiting themselves to only those patrons who didn't smoke themselves and had no one in their group who did.

In hindsight, it betrays a fundamental problem with the "let the market decide" argument: there are situations where a small number of consumers with uncommon preferences can end up altering the whole market such that the majority of consumers are forced into un-ideal purchases. In the case of smoking at bars, it was actually better to say "Hey you few people who smoke, you're kinda fucking up everything and we do actually need big government to step in and stop you from doing that."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I liked the no-smoking in bars even when i smoked. But pulling an archived post with 13 points and 100 comments to display prominent opinion is pretty fun times.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In the UK, most places had a non-smoking section (even restaurants 🤮) which was just part of the same room. No barriers or anything. The whole place stank no matter where you sat

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Same in the US. And it wasn't hard to get seated at a non-smoking table right next to the smoking section since there was no space between the tables or anything.

Airplanes were even worse.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My grandpa quit smoking before I was born but all through my childhood I remember my grandparents house having a very distinct smell and I grew fond and nostalgic about it. I later learned what the smell was and I still kinda like it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My grandparents and parents almost all smoked, and I absolutely revile the smell, as well as grandmas smoky house smell. Yuck.

Also, all of the smokers died from heart attacks and strokes in their early 60s, except my mom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I agree with the sentiment. I can't stand the smell of people actively smoking cigarettes. Gives me a headache. Places where people just finished smelling or where a lot of smokers were? Don't like that either.

But the occasional house with smells? Almost cozy.

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