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While it's very unlikely that someone has a definitive answer, this question popped into my head after the assassination of the UHC CEO and it's been bothering me that I can't shake off this feeling that more is likely to happen (maybe not in higher frequency but potential).

Usually I could provide counter-arguments to myself in a realism/(should I buy apples or oranges comparison) kind-of sense but this one I feel more unsure about.

I wish I had more diverse exp in systems analysis as these kinds of questions that linger in my head really irritates my OCD brain as I just want to know what's the most likely answer.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think we're headed towards that society. This was one incident. We've lived with the billionaire boot on our necks for decades and decades, I think people have become complacent if anything and the vast majority of us go to tictok or places like Lemmy to vent and then never actually do anything about it. We vote, the billionaire class candidate wins, and nothing ever changes. We sigh, vent, and go back to work.

I wouldn't take this one incident to mean anything larger.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

In my opinion, just like humanity is taking more from nature than is sustainable and in turn we create climate change, modern capitalism takes more from workers than thei can sustain. And just like climate change is not something that happens suddenly, but is more like a slow slide towards doom, the tone in society is steadily getting rougher, until something breaks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I sure hope so with how difficult the rich are making it to just fucking get by in this world. Just having more wealth and power than anyone in the history of mankind isn't enough for them; they have to make sure everyone else has nothing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

they have to make sure everyone else has nothing.

It ain't about them having most, it is about us having nothing.

Never forget!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Probably not, but it's nice to see that the assassination of just one executive, and the widespread support and praise the assassin has received, has other parasites terrified. My optimistic side says that maybe this will get the attention of lawmakers. My realistic side foresees private militias funded by megacorporations, but without rockerboy Keanu Reeves leading the resistance against them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

No... Lemmy is, but Lemmy is not indicative of society at large, hell, the Internet is not indicative of society at large.

Look at the last US election, if we were going to Eat the Rich would we have elected a putative billionaire candidate backed by Elon Musk?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That's what fake news is trying to say...

Also, many people on here stated from the start kamala and her DNC komissars are incompetent imbiciles for which they promptly banned from politics and news subs.

So just because mods silence comments sense reasoning, doesn't mean that it ain't out there.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, kind of. Conservatives don't view Donald Trump and Elon Musk as the wealthy elite that they are. They view them as "political outsiders". So yeah, people want change from the status quo, because the status quo is broken for so many.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I think billionaires are entering a phase known as FAFO.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

You know the saying, "death and taxes"? Well, they stopped paying taxes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

If we are it's the rich's own fault, which is what that phrase actually means.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

No one is even trying to assassinate space karen

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The rich have exceptional resources to protect themselves. Money is just another form of power.

For instance, even in a doomsday scenario (for them) of the French Revolution, the rich will have personal security guards. These people will be paid very well (relative to the general population), which will keep them loyal enough. They will eat at secure restaurants (similar deal), and enjoy activities in secure locations.

Beyond that, you already see the rich buying private islands (Larry Ellison) and preparing for an uprising (Peter Thiel).

But if you let your imagination run wild, they can even distort the blame, and set up patsies. Owning the media and controlling the narrative (propaganda) is highly effective and already happening in earnest. Plenty of blame is being shifted to immigrants and (because it works, somehow) LGBT+ groups.

I would even say the UHC CEO is himself a fall guy. The buck doesn't stop at the CEO. There is a step above him. The board of directors is responsible, and they will replace him with another just like him. They are the ones that ultimately choose the direction.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think the guy making 12 million dollars a year off the suffering of the poor counts as a fall guy.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I'm so hungry...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am surprised people have been tolerating the fuckening so well so far.

We live in a richest country and majority life is shit.

Fake news endlessly tells us to just accept it.

A dead CEO is a good message, it is provocative and it got people going.

School shooting copy cats were many... One can only pray that mentally unstable people can find a better targets going forward since shootings ain't stopping.

Might as well be these parasites.

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

As John F Kennedy said "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

Either we fix this peacefully through the democratic process, or people are gonna riot.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Billionaires: yeahhh I'm just going to buy all the media, all the politicians, and make sure enough of my guys win that they stop any legislation that would cost me anything. Nothing could ever go wrong with effectively taking away people's choices right?

I'm thinking all we have left is roit. We've already lost the democratic process through propaganda outlets and bought and paid for candidates a while ago. There is no party for the working class. There is a party that likes to talk big, but when push comes to shove they don't do shit and have their chosen "enemy of the term" to pop up and take the fall to stop anything from passing.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

I'm a fan of this belief because it provides hope in that with the increase of peace and harmony, humanity could course-correct towards a realized utopia.

The publicized hope of increased violence is a scary indicator that we're approaching closer to commonly associated fiction-based dystopias🫠

Blurry image of an anime girl holder her head with the caption "I hate it when a teacher puts '?' on my paper, like...I don't know either

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I really fucking hope so, the world has too many rich morons in charge and we genuinely need to do something about it right now if we want to have a planet anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

They love preaching social Darwinism but are they ready for some natural selection 🐸

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It always does. The lords get too greedy, and the peasants revolt.

The US has done an exceptionally good job of propaganizing that instinct out of people. But the material conditions of American Life have brought the sentiment roaring back.

Basically there are 2 paths. Either way is going to be a revolutionary upturning of the status quo. Either there will be another FDR who reins in the worst impulses of Capital. Or the citizenry will do it for them.

That or GovCo goes full authoritarian to control the population. But that has the potential to spark a civil war. After all, we have more guns than people to use them. A few massacres around the country would spark a real resistance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

We know one thing for sure is that these parasites and their owners will never stop the grift on their own.

Also Trump ain't FDR...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Since most people would be too happy to be (very) rich themselves, I doubt that will ever happen. Or only if we were to live in a "eat the other than me rich" society? ;)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe that's why the US has gotten this far, because they've sold the idea to enough people that they could be rich one day so don't mess it up for the rich people that you could be one day. Then convincing them to hate the other poor people, even hurt them. It might hurt you too, but remember, one day you'll be rich and escape the pain.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I think the saying goes "every American man feels like a temporarily embarrassed billionnaire"

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.”

[–] [email protected] 133 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Feels too good to be true. It's only one shooting.

Now if some second evil CEO were unfortunately victimized, I might be tempted to call it a trend...

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

two is just a mere coincidence; but three would be the start a pattern or trend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Well, there was that guy who took a pot shot at Trump, so if you count that, we're already at two...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel like victimized is the wrong word for someone reaching the find out part of fucking around.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

It was tongue-in-cheek, along with "unfortunately"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It happened in Europe during the "years of lead", mostly in Italia, France and Germany.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Skimming through [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_%28Italy%29#:~:text=The_Years_of_Lead_(Italian,political_terrorism_and_violent_clashes.), most of the attacks seemed to focus on politicians, police, and (disproportionately) members of the public.

A lot of the glee about the CEO murder is that his company's actions are indefensible, and, as CEO he is responsible for them. It's very difficult to say the same of the victims of the Years of Lead - many seem to be police, random members of the public, or other members of the same group. With the possible exception of some politicians, it's hard to see how the victims were responsible for much.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know this question is silly but something about this irks me

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

they filled this country with guns and poor people with nothing to lose. its a powder keg waiting for a match.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ah in that case civil unrest might be reaching an unspoken tipping point

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

we had a near assassination of a 'presidential candidate' (we were so close to not having to.. you know) and now this. just like with school shootings, once they start happening they happen more often.

its funny now the powers that be might see gun control as something that needs to happen. too little too late.

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