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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I actually hope the "influencers" who parroted NZXT's lies get harassed for it, just absolute scum

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Not surprising. My gut reaction when I heard about renting gaming PCs was "that can't work", and it's so much worse than I expected. The pricing alone should be enough to turn any informed person away. Easily more than double what would be reasonable. If you know anyone considering this, be sure to steer them away. Friends don't let friends rent from NZXT.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Used to like NZXT and suggested them to others. Won't be buying another product from them ever again. This program is pretty outrageous. So tired of this "you'll own nothing".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I tend to sit in the "a fool and his money" camp, but yeah, they aren't anywhere even near the budget brand they were in the 2010's. Competition has eaten a lot of that away. Must be desperation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I loved their Phantom cases back in the day

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I saw a Phantom on the cover of PC Mag or MaximumPC in a shop in like 2011(?) and that was when I started thinking of computers as more than just machines for edutainment CDs. It was a eureka moment. Computers. Not just what’s happening inside but the outside as well. Cool computers.

(Don’t get me wrong, I think society would be in a better place right now if we were still making quality edutainment CDs. Those games were made with love and I want to give everyone who worked at DK Multimedia a hug.)

But yeah. It wasn’t just a box, it had this striking blue-on-white alien design and decorative LEDs. I’d lowkey love to find an original Phantom and restore it (and remove most of the non-structural metal and replace it with mesh). I remember cases becoming obsolete with old front panel IO but I think worrying about the front panel IO is obsolete in itself now. Unsurprisingly there are no classifieds for a Phantom or a PC inside a phantom in my country right now.

It was that specific case for me, from that specific company. Enshittification is even here for every memory of every magazine cover your remember.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

H440 was a great looking case, even if the airflow was mid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Now, now, they didn't prove it's a scam. They just proved it would be cheaper and potentially safer to take out an illegal, maybe mafia backed payday loan to outright buy the equivalent computer. And you'd own the machine at the end of the day

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not a scam per se, just tricksy and false.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lying about FPS with the bait-and-switch parts is a scam. Implying it's rent to own when it's not is a scam. Lying to get money is a scam, period.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

First, look at my username, then reread what I said.

Also, technically the parts weren't truly bait-and-switched. You do see what you're going to actually get prior to agreeing to anything. The FPS numbers being the same despite different specs, could conceivably still be correct since they don't go into any details about their benchmarking and they could be manipulating settings to hit a target FPS. Which would still be manipulative and would probably qualify as false advertising.

The whole rent-to-own thing is only implied by some of their influencer advertisers, where it's at the very least plausible that those influencers were not directed to say those things. And it hasn't been proven that it was actually part of the ad read that NZXT directed. It's just assumed that it is. The assumption is reasonable, but it's still an assumption.

You have to infer facts that do not exist or have other plausible explanations to construe any of this as an out and out scam. What it is is shady, suspicious, and more than enough reason for me to take my money elsewhere.

But to call it a scam is to assert facts that at this time do not exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And they proved it was a bait and switch

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

And that they were making false claims in advertising

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also that they will raise prices, offer a very consumer unfriendly contract, apply false advertising through influencers and try to bait you into a worse PC by switching specs as soon as you hit rent instead of buy. Also the claimed fps numbers you'd hit remain the same on those lower specced PCs apparently and even then they're not consistent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Not to mention advertising as rent to own but have explicit language in the contract saying this is not rent to own.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

NZXT has no quality control, fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

When I heard about this:

"NZXT? Who buys their garbage?"

Then like, oh yeah, cases... Right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This was so much worse than no qc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

QC is the canary in the coal mine as it is reflective of the attitude "business" clowns have about what they are doing IMHO