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I think Mastodon needs to adopt a flying animal as its logo and make its theme blue and white
Im kinda pissed about this ngl. The enshitification of twitter was supposed to drive mastodon not another corporatised shithole.
So you are saying go to the thing that has been shit for years over the thing that isn't shit yet because that second thing may become shit in the future?
We have had many waves of people in the past. It does not look like Mastodon will become mainstream for some time if ever.
This sort of thing will keep happening unless the FOSS world learns to treat designers as equals. Mastodon is significantly harder to get going. Simple things like on-boarding and starter packs make BlueSky a better experience.
All we gotta do is wait for Bluesky to get bought by Musk.
Full circle!
Dont fret Mastadonians. The great Bsky to Fediverse migration is inevitable. Only the timing is debatable.
Never going to happen. You're in the company of the people who have been saying "year of the Linux desktop!" for three decades or more.
We used to be <1% we are now up to about 4%. We are on the slow lead in to the exponential curve.
Wont happen until mastodon makes on boarding easy enough for the tech illiterate.
That is a major issue the fediverse needs to fix.
We need a single federated account that works across all platforms that iant tied to a single server even if said server goes down that preferably allows for your private key to be held by u. Ideally get this to work with the new passkey standard supported by google, apple, microsoft etc.
Then. We need to make a website that is like 3 simple steps.
Step 0: Option a) sign up with email Option b) sign up with username
Step 1: Select or search for 3 categories ur interested in
Step 2: Show me nsfw yes/no default no Show me extreme opinions yes/no default no (need to rework what word to use instead of "extreme") Show me bot accounts yes/no default yes
Step 2.5: automaticly send said user off to an instance that is the following:
Step 3: user signs up to the instance they have been directed to
Step 4: reccommend people/communities etc fir them to follow/subscribe to. Reccommend blockliats for specific subjects, racist, tankie, asshole, nazi, etc.
Done!
Their already exists a standard for accounts just that its not yet been implemented into most services yet. Mastodon already has blocklists (although poorly managed and implemented). It wouldnt be too hard to make this website i could probably do it myself ngl.
Should probably also drop this vid into the proccess somewhere as a quick explainer.
It seems like Bluesky kind of did all of this with ATProto but they’re just met with constant criticisms
It’s like everyone agrees mastodon isn’t the “right” special concoction but any attempt ever made to do something different or better and people shoot it down because it’s “not open like mastodon”
Mastodon needs a lot of work before it becomes a mainstream option. They missed a big opportunity when twitter became toxic, and now they can’t compete against bluesky. Hope i’m wrong but i think they are doomed.
And the name doesn't help.
Yeah that generally seems to be an issue with a lot of foss projects.
Sure, but instances / servers confuse most average users. We see this every single time there is a new big migration wave. People don’t get it, then bail.
It's wild that no one ever had a problem with this with email and yet this is apparently so confusing they abandon it.
It's wild that no one ever had a problem with this with email
Do you work in IT? I couldn't imagine sitting there trying to guide people through IMAP and SMTP settings. Like email has been made a lot easier on that end because most people use an app on their phone that allows them to select from one of the three major providers, they click it, poof all done.
But imagine someone calls you up and is like "hey how do I setup mutt for gmail?" "How do I set up Canary for Microsoft?"
Then imagine someone who has 1/10 of your knowledge trying to set it up. We have to remember that a lot of people are unaware of the file/folder metaphor in computers because a lot of people just "put it in a cloud" and call it done. The tablet/phone era has really eroded a lot of knowledge about systems. I know that seems hard to believe on the Fediverse when we're all surrounded by incredibly knowledgeable people.
I see your point but do you really have that level of complexity on the fediverse?
You pick an instance, create an account and then browse; much like you would pick an email provider, create an account, and email your friends.
Sure if you're setting up your own domain for email, or configuring a mail client to work with your email provider, then you have to deal with these things but in my opinion the analogy works reasonably well. Maybe I am being dense.
People at work think I'm a wizard because I can do formulas in Excel and know how to navigate through directories in the file explorer. Even standard keyboard shortcuts (Like Ctrl+C) are strange magical things to many of my coworkers.
This analogy gets used a lot here, but it ignores the fact you literally see users struggling, asking for help, then giving up.
Also, email had a lot of things helping it out. Many ISPs would (and still) give people an email address and set it up for them. Moreover, mail web clients like Hotmail and Gmail didn’t pester people with domain selection. Average users didn’t pick a Hotmail or Gmail domain because they were thinking about the domain, they got it because they were thinking about the features that the web client and host offered.
"There's no chance this leopard will eat my face."
--Migrating Journalists, probably
More like
everyone else is, and I need to keep my job as a... you know, journalist
Well, it's not like it's the exact same dude who sold the old platform to fascists last time, right?
Bluesky is a registered public benefit company and Dorsey is no longer with the company and no longer on the board.
Phew .... then we can trust the open software that is locked to one company and one instance essentially leaving control to a handful of people.
What could go wrong?
I’m not saying open software isn’t awesome. I’m simply correcting a common misconception.
I agree, there is nothing wrong with Open Software .... the problem is the way Bluesky is being arranged and developed. They are essentially cornering the development to create a situation where only one company and one group maintains dominate control over everything and everyone.
The track record so far since the popular world wide internet started is that if a popular social media platform is controlled by one group, one company or even one person, it will eventually turn into a tool of monetization and control and it will eventually degrade and dissolve.
The only difference this time is Bluesky is supposedly built on open source software, which is true .... but the whole platform and system is corned, controlled and managed by only one company and one group.
They're actively working on making it easier to fork the entire platform.
There's already 3rd party account hosts, moderation labelers, feed generators, and alternative implementations like whitewind (blogging system on top of the same account repo & lexicon architecture) were you can use the exact same account. All of these works together independently of which hosts / providers you use.
Relays and microblogging appviews (a fully functional bluesky mirror) are technically possible but more expensive to duplicate but there's work on making that practical too.
You can already bypass PLC by using DID:Web for account identity.
The single most important thing if you want to be able to recover from bluesky going bad is to just back up your account recover signing key, and to keep a recent backup of the repo to preserve your post history and social network (follows, etc).
All the rest can be rebuilt if you have your account hey and backup. The content addressing will make it seamless!
"He's said he's sorry, and he's not going to do it again. You'll see. He's changed."
This time he bailed early though. He's got no control of the site
No the site just owes a bunch of money to the crypto bros at Blockchain Capital.
Doesn't matter if Dorsey isn't there and if it's a PBC, if the investors want a return on their investment (and they do) enshittification is coming.
It's open source and designed to literally not be reliant on the company running it. Start a community appview and plc and you can bring your entire account history with you
It's not actually decentralized or federated, but keep telling yourself that.