Lapce is the most promising tool I've seen in the editor space for some time now.
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When I write code in the terminal, the editor I use the most is nano. I know vim and emacs are more powerful, but I don't really feel that nano is incompetent. I run nano in byobu
You spelled vim wrong.
The team also created the Electron Framework
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Counter-point: Atom is terrible. Its electron competitors are terrible. Big IDEs are terrible. Simple text editors are terrible.
If you are under 50 and chose to learn vim or emacs, there is a 100% chance that you were also forced to learn latin at school and honestly it's not your fault that you turned out this way.
These are all the options. Sometimes all the options are terrible.
Vim or emacs? I mean I know they were created a long time ago, but they are both pretty good pieces of software, both highly configurable. I don't understand people aversion to them, rather than having the false belief that they are too complicated? When in reality they just aren't intuitive in terms of modern stuff. But they aren't difficult, just different.
I'm under 50 and I know Vi because it was always available on every Linux/BSD system i used from the day i discovered Linux up to now
There are actually a lot of people learning latin
Yep, I learned a good bit of it in school. That shit's helpful.
Me too, but I never found it helpful. What's your experience in using it in life?
Romanes eunt domus!
just keeps on keeping on with neovim, vimium, a tiling window manager, and an ortholinear keyboard.
- opens file in nvim, can edit code immediately, code is processed in the background and info appears after ~30 seconds
- opens Idea project, everything is unresponsive for a minute
Yep, I will stick to nvim.
Itβs definitely not the fastestβ¦
Clearly you never tried emacs
Why should I install a second operating system?
Had a distinguished collegue (from the Bell Lab days) say to me recently:
"IDEs take up a lot of RAM on my machine. Vim takes up a lot of squishy RAM in my head. I need squishy RAM to hold info relevant to problem solving, not options available in my tool chain."
Vim doesn't take any thought for me, it's all muscle memory.
While I agree with the sentiment, the key bindings have been burned into my less squishy ROM at this point, and I've got all banks of squishy RAM available π
hahaha good point.
That colleague, keep in mind is a bit older, also has Vim navigation burned into his head. I think where he was coming from, all these new technologies and syntax for them, he much rather prefers right clicking in the IDE and it'll show him options instead of doing it all from command line. For example docker container management, Go's devle debugger syntax, GDB. He has a hybrid workflow tho.
After having spent countless hours on my Vim config only to restart everything using Lua with nvim, I can relate to time sink that is vim.
code is just text, so code editors are text editors.
What sets IDEs apart are their features, like debugger integrations, refactoring assists, etc.
I love command line Β± Vim and used solely it for a large portion of my career but that was back when you had a few big enterprise languages (C/C++, Java).
With micro services being language agnostic, I find I use a larger variety of languages. And configuring and remembering an environment for rust, go, c, python etc. is just too much mental overhead. Hard to beat JetBrain's IDEs; now-a-days I bring my Vim navigation key bindings to my IDE instead of my IDE features to Vim. And I pay a company to work out the IDE features.
for the record, I am in the boat of, use whatever brings you the greatest joy/productivity.
text editors
Yes, I use MS Word then print as image to pdf. Outlook works too, but it's less secure, and Power Point is too fancy for my taste (I don't like animated transitions when my code wraps between columns). It's amazing how far we've come from punched cards, and how fast, I can barely keep up.
you sound like a Microsoft engineer ;)
I was trying to be a bit funny but I forgot that I'm not funny, (I'm) just a joke.
for the dummies (like me) that can't read the room, especially online, a sarcasm tag /s goes a long way π
... oh, you are right, now I fell dumb, I should use that more often, it would have worked perfectly in so many situations.
I am trying something similar irl, basically announcing my intentions (not just sarcasm) & trying not to feel weird in the sort of way like when somebody tells a joke & then starts to explain it immediately afterwards.
Eg: I'm genuinely happy you pointed that do directly, I'm not being sarcastic.
hey, that's what the internet is for; information sharing :)
Ah, yes, when humans build & use something for good. I forget sometimes about that. That reminds me, I should donate some moneys to Wikipedia again.
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