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Pulsar (former Atom) is still the best code editor in my opinion. It is easiest and fastest to use, has all the nice productivity boosting plugins and is overall great for all the same reasons the Atom was great. πŸš€

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Lapce is the most promising tool I've seen in the editor space for some time now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

VS Code gang

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I write code in the terminal, the editor I use the most is nano. I know vim and emacs are more powerful, but I don't really feel that nano is incompetent. I run nano in byobu

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

You spelled vim wrong.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

The team also created the Electron Framework

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Counter-point: Atom is terrible. Its electron competitors are terrible. Big IDEs are terrible. Simple text editors are terrible.

If you are under 50 and chose to learn vim or emacs, there is a 100% chance that you were also forced to learn latin at school and honestly it's not your fault that you turned out this way.

These are all the options. Sometimes all the options are terrible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Vim or emacs? I mean I know they were created a long time ago, but they are both pretty good pieces of software, both highly configurable. I don't understand people aversion to them, rather than having the false belief that they are too complicated? When in reality they just aren't intuitive in terms of modern stuff. But they aren't difficult, just different.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm under 50 and I know Vi because it was always available on every Linux/BSD system i used from the day i discovered Linux up to now

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are actually a lot of people learning latin

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, I learned a good bit of it in school. That shit's helpful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Me too, but I never found it helpful. What's your experience in using it in life?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Romanes eunt domus!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just keeps on keeping on with neovim, vimium, a tiling window manager, and an ortholinear keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago
  • opens file in nvim, can edit code immediately, code is processed in the background and info appears after ~30 seconds
  • opens Idea project, everything is unresponsive for a minute

Yep, I will stick to nvim.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It’s definitely not the fastest…

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly you never tried emacs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Why should I install a second operating system?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Had a distinguished collegue (from the Bell Lab days) say to me recently:

"IDEs take up a lot of RAM on my machine. Vim takes up a lot of squishy RAM in my head. I need squishy RAM to hold info relevant to problem solving, not options available in my tool chain."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Vim doesn't take any thought for me, it's all muscle memory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@varsock @otto
Oh god yes! Each instance of VS22 takes up more than 1Gb of RAM - what I'm doing right now with this piece of code does NOT need 1Gb of memory! Have they not heard of lazy loading?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I agree with the sentiment, the key bindings have been burned into my less squishy ROM at this point, and I've got all banks of squishy RAM available πŸ˜„

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

hahaha good point.

That colleague, keep in mind is a bit older, also has Vim navigation burned into his head. I think where he was coming from, all these new technologies and syntax for them, he much rather prefers right clicking in the IDE and it'll show him options instead of doing it all from command line. For example docker container management, Go's devle debugger syntax, GDB. He has a hybrid workflow tho.

After having spent countless hours on my Vim config only to restart everything using Lua with nvim, I can relate to time sink that is vim.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

code is just text, so code editors are text editors.

What sets IDEs apart are their features, like debugger integrations, refactoring assists, etc.

I love command line Β± Vim and used solely it for a large portion of my career but that was back when you had a few big enterprise languages (C/C++, Java).

With micro services being language agnostic, I find I use a larger variety of languages. And configuring and remembering an environment for rust, go, c, python etc. is just too much mental overhead. Hard to beat JetBrain's IDEs; now-a-days I bring my Vim navigation key bindings to my IDE instead of my IDE features to Vim. And I pay a company to work out the IDE features.

for the record, I am in the boat of, use whatever brings you the greatest joy/productivity.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

text editors

Yes, I use MS Word then print as image to pdf. Outlook works too, but it's less secure, and Power Point is too fancy for my taste (I don't like animated transitions when my code wraps between columns). It's amazing how far we've come from punched cards, and how fast, I can barely keep up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you sound like a Microsoft engineer ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was trying to be a bit funny but I forgot that I'm not funny, (I'm) just a joke.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

for the dummies (like me) that can't read the room, especially online, a sarcasm tag /s goes a long way πŸ™ƒ

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

... oh, you are right, now I fell dumb, I should use that more often, it would have worked perfectly in so many situations.

I am trying something similar irl, basically announcing my intentions (not just sarcasm) & trying not to feel weird in the sort of way like when somebody tells a joke & then starts to explain it immediately afterwards.

Eg: I'm genuinely happy you pointed that do directly, I'm not being sarcastic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

hey, that's what the internet is for; information sharing :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, yes, when humans build & use something for good. I forget sometimes about that. That reminds me, I should donate some moneys to Wikipedia again.

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