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Now that we have final numbers. It appears that Harris had all the white & black support she needed for an EC victory. But Trump outright flipping Latino men and making huge gains with Latino women seems to have made all the difference.

What do you think?

First image is 2024, second is 2020.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

what's the source of the 'final numbers' because they do not agree with what i have been able to find? and how can they be final when no one knows how any individual voted?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Kamala lost because the policies of the Democrats suck for working class people. And the Democrats are in general corrupt as fuck. It's as simple as that. Just as in Russia, if the system is super corrupt, better make it explicit by making corruption THE system. USA has been an oligarchy for quite some time. Trump 2.0 just made it explicit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Trump literally laughed about Union busting with Elon in front of millions on a Twitter space.

No republicans voted to extend the child tax credit this year.

Republicans tried to kill union pensions, Dems saved it with their slim majority.

Joe Biden did the Chips Act, saving and creating over 800k jobs from being shipped overseas.

Republicans are the ones in favor of Right to Work.

Joe Biden at his old age literally marched on the picket line with union workers.

Seriously, I mean this with no disrespect. What the fuck are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ever cosider that there's a reason why the latinos moved to the right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That’s why I’m asking?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think you can answer that question from those numbers. They are percentages. The difference they make depends a lot on the total population in each group.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Decades of under-education could only lead to shit. But even for a cynical asshole.like me, your country electing the best friend of the most notorious pedo, after he tried to overtake the previous election is quite something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The culture war means more than that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Democrats failed to solve people's issues. That's just it.

But Americans are in for a hard awakening if they think that in general Latin American population is progressive or left leaning. And that democrats have their guaranteed vote.

Each person is different, of course. And the average doesn't change any person individual values.

But on average Latin American countries tend to have overwhelming conservative cultures when compared with USA/Europe.

This doesn't negate any Latin American person who is progressive, of course. Just talking about averages and the reality that was shown by the polls.

In general Democrats, and any left leaning party, think that because they defend immigrants, immigrants will support them by default. This has been shown far from the truth. If someone have conservative values they will probably vote for a conservative party. That's just it. One person won't become progressive (as in stopping being sexist or transphobic) just because they moved from one country to another. An immigrant is a whole person with their own sets of values, both before and after they migrate, and won't be reduced to "being an immigrant" when voting, specially once they are legally settled in a place and their residence won't be at risk, they will just vote for their values. If they have conservative values they'll vote conservative if they have progressive values they'll vote progressive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Actually beautiful comment. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Many legal immigrants get pissed if you conflate them with illegal immigrants. They try very hard distance themselves from those people. Couple that with pervasive machismo and Catholic ignorance and this is what you get.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Kamala Harris lost cause she's female. And didn't ~~lie~~ promise (that much) to voters. And had the richest 0.5% of US voters against her. This is cause the oldest wannabe-democracy of the world lost his state long ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Latino women, I'm available y puedo hablar un poco de español!

😂 ^^ What I took away from the post.

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