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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fortunately most of this money will be stolen by federal contractors, but yeah, the gICEtappo is going to balloon in size.

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I know I love making fun of you yanks, but, y'all stay safe out there.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (11 children)

For now. If you're a white male/female with at least 2 generations of American citizenship. You'll be ok.

I'm thinking the next big leap? Gov looks at all social media for what political side you're on. Then you'll get thrown in camps. This is maybe year 4 of Trump or whatever comes after him in a rigged election. Maybe an "emergency" skip the elections this time thing.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 days ago

Uhhhh......we can't

[–] [email protected] 111 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It absolutely is, and the ramifications of the bill won't be fully understood until it's largely too late.

It will have to be challenged in the courts and hopefully held up until a new Congress is seated in '27 and a new President in '29.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Sure, there will be a new President. Vance will take the job in name with Trump as VP, but will sit back.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Assuming law still matters by then, he can't be VP. VP has to be eligible to be president.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When was the last time the law mattered? It’s been rules for thee but not for me for decades now

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You mean centuries? From 1776? When all men were created equally? And just men. None of those pesky women! And obviously only full real men. None of those 3/5ths of a man! Legally speaking of coarse....

I would put /s, but it's not really sarcasm. More of a condemnation of our entire country which tries to project these ideas that we're some great country built on respectable principals.

Fact is, our country was a group of alcoholic degenerates, that founded our country by giving the middle finger to the king of England because the King came to collect taxes.

From there, they decided that Native American lives meant nothing, and brutally murdered them for land.

While all this was going on, they also placed an amazon overnight delivery order for some slaves shipped straight from Africa.

And somehow, someway, in all of this, the NEW government decided it needed to collect taxes. You know, the whole thing that prompted this whole thing to begin with. But now they were COLLECTING taxes. Not PAYING them!

Always has been rules for thee but not for me. Since day 1.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

At the time of the revolution, the colonists were paying only 10% the tax that English residents were. Taxes were a bit of a figleaf. More important was the “tyranny” of the King refusing to override the elected government’s decision to uphold the treaties with the native Americans and forbid westward colonial expansion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Japan just happened to punch the wrong bystander in the eye during their last bar brawl. Then, we started shooting everyone associated with Japan. It just happened that we were shooting the countries that were more in the wrong.

All of the people we accidentally protected assumed we were on their side and didn't realize that we REALLY like shooting things. So much so that we're willing to give guns away just to have an excuse to start shooting again. But by the time countries realized that we have really strange opinions on religion, the value in starvation and disease, and assigning humanity based on colors, they'd already given us the guest key.

We have no friends, countries are either in our sights or not.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago

a new President in '29

We all hope.

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