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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I bought this before I found out Elon was crazy. Man has always been insane, we just weren't listening yet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Along those lines, the sticker shop from the story has since come out with one that says "I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy."

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep. Elons always been a massive piece of shit.

The idiots who've spent the past decade slobbing all up and down his knob have just willfully turned a blind eye to it cause they subjugated themselves to his derranged cult of personality, that was built all around the idea of his "saviour of humanity" bullshit with regards to his stupid rockets and electric cars.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just glad Tesla costs more than I can afford. Makes it very easy for the vast majority of us poor plebes to continue to not own one.

I so wanted a Chevy Bolt though.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah. My lack of income saves me from a lot of scams I'm too poor for 😂

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Let's be real - all the car companies are owned by terrible people. If it's not Elon, it's some other soulless capitalist who pushed subsidies and lower efficiency standards for mega trucks that speed up global warming just as we're supposed to be slowing it down.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

This is often my thought process when I have to interact with a big company. If I never did any business that would benefit a bad person, I’d basically have to live in a hut in the woods.

However, there are degrees. For years I was sure a model 3 performance would be the perfect next car for me, but now like many people I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stomach owning a Tesla. The Musk connection has blown way past being embarrassing, and now buying one of those damn cars feels like supporting or at least accepting some horrible parts of humanity.

It’s not even a matter of hurting Musk’s bottom line, even though that would be nice. It’s about self respect, trying to put positivity into people’s lives instead of negativity, and being able to look my kid in the eye when he’s an adult and remembers the fucked up years we’re about to endure. I want absolutely zero to do with normalizing fascism and bigotry, even when it comes to something so mundane as the logo on my car.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I try not to judge Tesla drivers too much since plenty of them bought in before Elon went full mask-off in support of fascism, but if you own a Cybertruck you were 100% aware of what you were supporting when you bought it and I will absolutely judge you for that poor financial decision. Fucking Cyberdorks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I call them Cyberbacks. They aren't trucks they are bloated hatchbacks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

They genuinely look like city dumpsters from behind. Saw a green one, thought it would be a good place to dump my bottles and cans.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I live in an area where it seems like 50% of the cars are Teslas. Half my neighbors have them. Only stickers I’ve ever seen on a Tesla are “Student Driver”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They will once people start putting swastikas them

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Hello from across the Potomac! You're spot on with your observations.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

If you buy a Tesla, you deserve all the ridicule you get

[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It may be unfair, but I've been increasingly judgemental of Tesla drivers, especially over the past 4 or 5 years. He used to just be a joke when he was tweeting edgelord stuff like his nightstand and trying to have images scrubbed from the internet of when he was still bald. Model S, model 3, model X (s3x, hur dur). Then I was made angry by the hyperloop and his distracting, unproductive impact of the way America thinks about mass transit. Then I got mad about Starlink, first as extremely expensive, dystopian sky litter. Then as a frightening glimpse at communication control in places with civil unrest/protest. Then he bought twitter, and did a hilariously bad job at running it. Installing a cartoonishly bad sign on his building and whatnot. Naming it something idiotic. Then helping bring Trump back from the dead. Then everything he has done in the 2024 election cycle. I don't know how people can stand to be associated with Elon and all the he represents in any way. It would be like driving around in a Jimmy Savile-mobile.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because people either don't care or don't care enough to pay more for another EV

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This isnt 2002.

EVs from other car makers are both cheaper, and better built, than any Tesla. The Market has left Teslas and their bullshit in the dust.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Then people who buy a Tesla in 2024 simply suck. A bad product for a high price produced by an imbecile. It's not easy to get scammed 3 times at once

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I judge people in Tesla's, especially 3 and y the same way I used to judge bmw drivers. I must assume they are a dumbass and going to do something dangerous because they often do. Wonder what percentage of Tesla drivers used to have beamers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I bought one when no other option for an EV really existed for reasonable range batteries.

I have never owned a luxury car. My other car is a Honda accord from 2016.

I would be happy to have any other car brand, but the cost to replace the car with a different EV of similar range would cost us $30k. Is it really that important to harm yourself financially to signal to others your preferences for a person?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For me it’s less about signaling to other drivers. It’s more about not giving Elon money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok, but we already gave him the money 5 years ago.

So, what changes by selling it?

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because I bought a $60k car in 2018 that still works fine, and replacing a fully functional vehicle is a huge expense to undertake.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Ah, back when full self driving was only negative four years into the future.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I acknowledge that it's unfair, but I'm judging you. Everyone driving in a Tesla looks like a rube at best, tacky and vain at least, or a contributor to fascism at worst. Perhaps you might consider a bumper sticker, haha.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure that if major stockholders of the other auto brands were in the spotlight as much as Musk is, we'd see that they're just as terrible

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

First off, absolutely. None of these CEOs got where they are by acts of kindness. But there in lies the rub. Musk is in the spotlight. In a very real way, with his purchase of Twitter, he has actually become the spotlight itself. And he is vocally championing hateful rhetoric, and he is bankrolling an existential threat to America/democracy/the planet. The icon that is Tesla is inexorably linked to Musk, and lately Musk is shaping up to be America's Goebbels.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

The stickers do help, I have seen one before and then I remember how it was exciting in the early days that someone was very publicly making a big push to introduce a viable alternative to internal combustion engines. We know a lot more now about Musk and Tesla than we did back when the first cars rolled out. A lot of the early Tesla owners probably meant well and it doesn’t help that nearly all the infrastructure (at least in my area) is car-only and hostile towards other forms of transit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He pushed Hyperloop such that they build more roads btw. since other forms of transit were just fine or however it went back then. Goal achieved, idiots loved him and argued for this nonsense a lot.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It was an attempt to derail California (and other) High Speed Rail.

Why would you build HSR if there's something way faster/better/cheaper, you just need to wait 5 years? You're going to look really dumb if you spend tens of billions on infrastructure intended to last more than a century, and then it's obsolete before it's complete.

Similar story with Toyota perpetually claiming to have amazing batteries 3-5 years away, making every EV look like an expensive waste with no resale value.

And a hydrogen economy, small nuclear reactors, or fusion power being 5/10/20 years away, removing the need to invest in transmission and generation.

A major paradigm shift being right around the corner makes people choose short-term solutions, because you want to wait for the new thing to arrive before investing in 'old tech'.

The problem is most of it is lies, perpetuated by those selling the short-term-fix old tech.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yes that was it!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Exactly. He's the poster child for a virus that is killing our host. Beyond unhelpful, and well into counterproductive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just driving your Tesla without trying to apologize for it would be a lot more dignified.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, I bought mine in 2019 back when Musk just seemed like a dorky edgelord. I'm definitely not going to buy a new car just because Tesla's CEO is a tool, though when I AM ready, it's certainly not going to be another Tesla.

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