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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

He was always crazy though. You just weren't paying attention then. No one remembers him going wild and calling the Thai rescue divers pedophiles to their face and all that?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 55 minutes ago

The rescue divers were the first real public turning point. He has always been crazy, but he tried really, really, really hard to project a cool-uncle, anti-establishment persona online before that.

I think he eventually just realized he was rich enough to stop caring and so he stopped pretending.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Teslas have been sold since 2005

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

I'd have traded it in by now. Embarrassing to own and mostly junk.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Here is my favorite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

If Elon found out i opine that he would permanently lock their doors and crash their car remotely with them in it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

He was always a shitbag.

He just had good PR, and most people never listened to the people countering it.

Now, he’s fired the PR… and he’s still a shit bag with his crazy on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Some people never heard. I see a lot of people accusing people of not listening, but for the first couple years I heard anything about Musk I didn't hear any negatives. I wasn't looking him up, I'd just see a joke or meme, and since I didn't care much I probably didn't even go into comments. I think the first real negative news I heard was the sub pedo incident.

Maybe the Model E Model 3 S3X thing, but at worst I considered that an immature joke and didn't think much further about it, nor heard anyway say anything seriously negative about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'll always remember how surprised most of us were when he turned out to be a shitbag while those kids in Thailand were stuck in a cave. I had no opinion on him until then.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I had tingly sensors going off but I naively assumed that fiasco would have been a death knell for him. This timeline sucks

[–] [email protected] 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Kudos to the Tesla owners who realize Musk is still an apartheid supporting turd. My colleague has a Tesla and his wife told him to dump the car.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Problem is, most Telsa owners still have cars that have many good years left in them, and buying a different new or pre owned EV will be a hit to the pocket book. Especially after selling a rapidly depreciating Tesla.

I get why people are saying “fuck it, I’ll put a sticker on it.” Selling and buying a new car isn’t a thing many people want to do at the drop of a hat. I

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

No, but you can trade in a 3 or 4-year-old car in exchange for a 7 or 8-year-old car for about the same price, depending on what you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But selling your Tesla isn't even sticking it to Elon. You already bought the thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

He still makes money off of charging, but you're right in that it's miniscule in comparison

[–] [email protected] 1 points 45 minutes ago

Other manufacturers can use Tesla chargers now, and many times those are the best options on long road trips. This doesn’t really change anything. I can also choose to charge my Tesla at non-Tesla chargers and accomplish the same goal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Letting social media bully you into making stupid financial decisions is not the play.

Elon may be an idiot but he isn't the only person at Tesla. It's not like he's gone to the factory and hand built every vehicle. They have their flaws, but the cars themselves are still totally fine.

The only reason people even care is because some narcissistic billionaire can't stop yapping on social media.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago) (1 children)

They have their flaws, but the cars themselves are still totally fine.

Reliability statistics and some of the widest engineering tolerances in the industry disagree with you - they are really, objectively not good cars... but they're comfy, so people don't care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 34 minutes ago

Can you point to objective data that shows they're worse than most other car brands?

I've heard the same but it's usually in the comments of some sensationalized news content after a tragic accident occurs, as if other vehicles don't also have bad things happen in a collision.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

If I’m looking for another EV with decent range, then options are pretty slim.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago

"i bought this before elons insanity was public knowledge" ftfy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

Elon owns and profits off Tesla, but otherwise, he's not very special. He's rich, and he can win games of marketing chess, and intellectual property theft. I can never help but point out at al opportunities that he's not much of an inventor, but no wonder he's buddy buddy with Trump, they both are great at claiming credit for things they had little to do with. Its also fascinating, every venture Elon is in, is actually pro-leftist pro-environmentalist pro-deepstate, yet he's hated by leftists for 'being mean', and loved by Trumpsters despite his true intentions being to help the government take freedoms away. That dynamic, is worthy of study in my opinion.

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